Well, this is really my father's fault. Him and his 50 beowulf thing. I think a 50 lever would be a lot more cool, but may have to settle for another black rifle. I like hearing all the stories from you guys. I have never seen a 50 govt rifle. Could anyone post a pic or something?
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Mine is a 2nd Model Allin that made a trip to Bannerman's Armory and then survived a trip to my workbench where the barreled action was mated to the stock and lock from a replica 1841 Mississippi rifle.Originally Posted by x101airborne
The 2nd Allin was made by taking the left over muzzle loading rifles and machining the breech area away. An anchor block was soldered and screwed to the barrel to hold the breechblock in place. The bore was drilled out and a three diameter barrel sleeve was installed. The hammer was reshaped to strike the firing pin and various small parts (ejector, springs, etc.) were added to make it complete. This was continued until the Model of 1868 when a seperate reciever was manufactured and sometimes new barrels also. I believe the Model 1870 was produced from new parts with some surplus small parts and by the time the 1873 (smallbore 45-70) was introduced, all the surplus parts had been used and the rifle was totally new made.
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http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/
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strawhat... that is an awesome rifle there. love the old makings of history. tell me that the revolver is an 1860 original colt conversion? im sure its not unless you or someone had it re-finished....cool photo tho and im jealous of the rifle...big time.
Get one of the reproduction Winchester M1886's and rebore it to 50-70. Make sure you have a rifling twist for the heaviest bolit you intend to use.
Or even better a Browning '86 or '71 from the 1980's - that way you don't have the rebounding hammer or tang safety. Or you can get Doug Turnbull to build it on a modern made Winchester. He fixes those issues and case colors the receiver for just a few hundred bucks more than the base rifle. Way nicer!
Will the 50-70 fit in the 1886? They were not origianlly offered in that chambering and Winchester introduced the 50-110 (?) to fill the 50 caliber void.
I believe the case is too big for the lever rifle.
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The revolver is the Armi San Marco version of the Richards conversion of the 1860. They got some things correct and some things wrong but I like it. It is chambered for the 44 Colt, same as the original.
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Shouldn't be a problem - 348 has the same size case head but is longer. Probably have to do some mods on the lifter to work with the shorter case. 50 Alaska is just a blown out 348 and those work fine, made just for the M71.
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There was a 50-95 Winchester in the 1876 rifle. There are repros made today. This is a bottleneck type which would give a good powder capacity gain over the 50-70 (I shoot those). The drawback is the 1876 action.. not built to be hot rodded. But the 50-95 can slay any critter out there so I recon it would be a great tool to use. Roadrunner (AZ) sells these repros for a very good looking price.
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Not to Hijak but has anyone ever shot the 45-75 ? I was always interested in that one ..... Sorta reminded me of a Giant 44-40
oh and I see people mentioning the 50 AK being a blown out 348, just my$.02 but the starline new 50 Ak brass will likely be easier to find than the .348 winchester brass.
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/an...50_alaskan.htm
heres a 50 AK built on a 336 Marlin!
J
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