Bullshop, 22 CCM

[Bullshop Junior]

I find it interesting when dad was trying to revive the 22ccm years ago that no one took much of a interest. Now, it's another story.

[Bullshop]

Things come and things go and there is nothing new under the sun. The 22 ccm has had at least three incarnations the first starting a century before I tried to help it along.
In light of the current state of rim fire ammo availability the time may be right finally. There are many existing RF platforms that can be converted to center fire. As a matter of fact Shroader Bullet Works the supplier of brass for the 22 ccm is also a supplier for RF to CF bolts for some rifles. I converted a couple of the 5mm Remingtons using his bolts. He also supplies the 5mm Remington brass for these conversions.
Anyway a 22 ccm is not all that obscure as some folks think.
BTW my Cooper Arms model 38 is number 508 and a beautiful and accurate rifle. My Ruger single six is a very early model that has worn stag grips since it was new half a century ago, possibly Ruger but I am not sure.
I can ask for help with a pic if anyone would really like to see them.

[Blammer]

photo's of the cartridge would be nice. I have no idea what it looks like, and not just a side profile, show the bottom where the primer goes also.

[Bullshop Junior]

I'll see if I can help with some photos.

These are 22 velo dog rounds.

[Chev. William]

Here is a drawing of the .22 CCM Cartridge.



I hope this helps,
Best Regards,
Chev. William

[Chev. William]

Here is a drawing of the .22 CCM Cartridge.



I hope this helps,
Best Regards,
Chev. William

PS: Quote from the "LoadData" web site:
" Notes: gun: Shilen; barrel length: 24"; primer: Rem 1 1/2; case: CCM; max length: 1.156"; trim length: 1.154"; COL max: 1.480"; NOTE: The .22 Cooper Centerfire Magnum is the .22 Extra Long Centerfire reborn. The .22 Extra Long Centerfire was designed for the Model 1882 Maynard single shot hunting and gallery rifles. It was replaced by the .22 WCF. The .22 CCM can be thought of as a reloadable .22 WMR. Its performance actually places it midway between the .22 WMR and the .22 Hornet. The maximum loads shown do not exceed the 48,500 C.U.P. limit established by Cooper Arms."
Chev. William

[Blammer]

thanks, that velo dog round is 3 inches long?

[Bullshop]

I don't think that is an inch ruler. Must be a metric ruler.

[Bullshop Junior]

Yes it is metric

[Blammer]

so, what's the scale.... and don't say 10's...

[Bullshop]

centimeters?

[Bullshop Junior]

Metric. I learned this in school I think....the numbered ones should be centimeters. 10 millimeters to a centimeter. So that cartridge is about 29 mm long, 1.10 inch.

[Chev. William]

1.156" times 25.4 (mm=inch) gives 29.36+mm or 2.936cm.
Best Regards,
Chev. William

[Bullshop Junior]

1.156" times 25.4 (mm=inch) gives 29.36+mm or 2.936cm.
Best Regards,
Chev. William

I was just taking a rough guess off of the photo with the ruler. Thanks.

[DLCTEX]

So is Velo Dog and CCM the same?

[Bullshop Junior]

Other then the way they are loaded, pretty much I believe.

[starmac]

With the way rimfire availability has been the last few years, it just might be a great time to resurrect this round. I could not find any brass listed for it, but my computer skills are not the best either. lol

[Bullshop Junior]

I don't think shroader has a website. I have seen the velo dog ammo a few places. The factory velo dogs are loaded to about a 22 short.

[starmac]

I actually found their site, but didn't find a listing for the brass. That does not mean that they don't have it though.

[Janoosh]

The 22 mag martini I have was just rechambered from 22 lr. What are the Ideal bore dimensions???