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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    zidave, maybe I have no soul, but other people's 40 year old bowling trophies go in the pot.

    Full Mold Jack, thanks for the additions!
    Haha. That I can see, no sentimental value to you but those cups are sweet.

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    Another tea set. The pot is 10.5 inches tall and weighs 1 pound 10 ounces. The creamer and sugar are 5 inches tall, the creamer 7.5 ounces and the sugar 10 ounces. Interesting hallmark on this set... A faint original maker's mark that I can't make out heavily over stamped by the Gimbel Brothers.


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    Another Old Colony pitcher, exactly the same as the one in post 142, except this one is a little heavier at 1 pound 8.6 ounces...

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    I've picked up a few more pieces lately as well... I've been doing pretty good at one particular Goodwill store... had a new piece every time I go in there. Although I've passed on a number of pieces as well because of price.

    Just yesterday I picked up a 7.75 oz ash-tray Proofmarked "TIN" & "Made in Denmark". Had to spring a whole $1 for it.

    Picked up a 6 oz belt-buckle for $.50 and a small "Jefferson Cup" marked "Pewter" "Made in Italy" for $.25...

    So far, ALL of my pewter scores have come from Goodwill stores... 90% of them from the exact same store that seems to get all sorts of good stuff in...

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    Well done sir. My best finds have been there too.

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    Found some stuff with new hallmarks...
    A 9 inch decorative plate with the classic angel hallmark, 1 pound 8.9 ounces.



    A pair of Jefferson cups, 5.9 ounces each.



    Another coffee and tea set. 9 inch coffee pot, 1 pound 7.5 ounces. 7 inch tea pot, 1 pound even. 5 inch sugar, 9.3 ounces.



    A small salt cellar. Only 2.6 ounces, but a neat Italian hallmark.



    And yet another coffee set. This one was a good score... The 10.5 inch pot is 2 pounds 7.2 ounces. A 4 inch creamer at 10.3 ounces. A 5 inch covered sugar at 12.3 ounces. All on a 13.5 inch tray at 2 pounds 8.8 ounces.

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    Found this at our local Goodwill. $1.95 plus tax.

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    Found this one also. $1.95 plus tax. I busted out the glass and removed the little gasket so the weight is all pewter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RikyRacr View Post
    Found this at our local Goodwill. $1.95 plus tax.

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    A fine example of "not pewter." That's Wilton Armetale, a proprietary aluminum based alloy that is of no use to boolit casters. Tell tales (besides the RWP hallmark) are the thick body and cast in handle.

    Quote Originally Posted by RikyRacr View Post
    Found this one also. $1.95 plus tax. I busted out the glass and removed the little gasket so the weight is all pewter.

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    That's a good one with the classic markings. Thanks for the additions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    A fine example of "not pewter." That's Wilton Armetale, a proprietary aluminum based alloy that is of no use to boolit casters. Tell tales (besides the RWP hallmark) are the thick body and cast in handle.
    Thank you for the info. I would have tried to use this. I am new to casting and just started watching for pewter in the last couple of weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RikyRacr View Post
    Thank you for the info. I would have tried to use this. I am new to casting and just started watching for pewter in the last couple of weeks.
    It wouldn't have hurt you, it won't melt at anything close to casting temperatures. Take heart, you aren't the first (nor will you be the last) to buy a piece of Armetale by mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RikyRacr View Post
    Found this one also. $1.95 plus tax. I busted out the glass and removed the little gasket so the weight is all pewter.

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    You'll notice on this piece that there's a rolled edge above the ring that has 'ENGLISH PEWTER SHEFFIELD'. If you peel that rolled edge outward you can remove that ring, which is sometimes aluminum, and the glass bottom along with the caulk. Old mugs used caulk similar to stained glass caulk but the new ones use a silicon based seal. I try to remove as much of caulk before going into the pot cuz it does very little to flux/reduce the melt. After the ring is removed, the glass comes out with a little steady pressure from the inside on one edge. That mugs enough pewter to add to 2-10 pots of alloy. I peel that rolled edge with a pair of pliers.

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    I was shopping for pewter for the first time yesterday. I found a lot of things that looked promising, but was afraid to commit. A thin seashell shaped piece with three candle holders (soldered on), and thick legs (also soldered on) but no hallmark. Do ALL pewter pieces have a hallmark? I saw one piece that had a funny looking 'K R', but I didn't see that mark in this thread. There were two 'teacup' sized bowls, obviously turned, by the machine marks. Is any of this pewter? Some stuff said Sheffield Silver, and seemed really cheap for silver. Is there any value to scrap silver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsizemore View Post
    You'll notice on this piece that there's a rolled edge above the ring that has 'ENGLISH PEWTER SHEFFIELD'. If you peel that rolled edge outward you can remove that ring, which is sometimes aluminum, and the glass bottom along with the caulk. Old mugs used caulk similar to stained glass caulk but the new ones use a silicon based seal. I try to remove as much of caulk before going into the pot cuz it does very little to flux/reduce the melt. After the ring is removed, the glass comes out with a little steady pressure from the inside on one edge. That mugs enough pewter to add to 2-10 pots of alloy. I peel that rolled edge with a pair of pliers.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUSP View Post
    I was shopping for pewter for the first time yesterday. I found a lot of things that looked promising, but was afraid to commit. A thin seashell shaped piece with three candle holders (soldered on), and thick legs (also soldered on) but no hallmark. Do ALL pewter pieces have a hallmark? I saw one piece that had a funny looking 'K R', but I didn't see that mark in this thread. There were two 'teacup' sized bowls, obviously turned, by the machine marks. Is any of this pewter? Some stuff said Sheffield Silver, and seemed really cheap for silver. Is there any value to scrap silver?
    Not all pieces are marked especially the amateur stuff. I'd stick to the hallmarked stuff till you've handled the real deal for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveUSP View Post
    I was shopping for pewter for the first time yesterday. I found a lot of things that looked promising, but was afraid to commit. A thin seashell shaped piece with three candle holders (soldered on), and thick legs (also soldered on) but no hallmark. Do ALL pewter pieces have a hallmark? I saw one piece that had a funny looking 'K R', but I didn't see that mark in this thread. There were two 'teacup' sized bowls, obviously turned, by the machine marks. Is any of this pewter? Some stuff said Sheffield Silver, and seemed really cheap for silver. Is there any value to scrap silver?
    One way to look at it is that you are learning. If the piece you are in doubt over is only a few bucks, consider it tuition and buy it. Then study it, compared to a hallmarked piece of similar condition and finish. Melt and cast the pieces separately. Use a boolit mold and compare weights and such (like melting points).

    Over time, you will get a good feel for unmarked pieces. You still want to quarantine unmarked stuff and check it by melting it. Look for it to melt under 450 deg.
    Jeff

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    Another couple of weeks of good scrounging. Found some weight, but mostly the same old marks. A few new ones though...

    An 8 inch diameter bowl, just over a pound. The hallmark is something I'm seeing more of these days, acid etched rather than stamped.



    Another 5 inch tankard. This one has a solid bottom and goes 11.3 ounces.



    And yet another tea set. 10 inch tray at 15.3 ounces, 3.5 inch sugar and creamer at 9.7 and 8 ounces respectively. And the 9 inch tall, 4 inch diameter pot at 1 pound 14.3 ounces.

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    My latest findings for the melting pot from a deceased estate.

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    The candle holder by Metl-craft Australia doesn't appear to be weighted at 11 ounces and has someones drivers license number engraved in it for theft prevention. The two small Selangor Malaysia cups are quite thick and weigh in at 7 ounces each.

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    Mug by Strachan is 9 ounces, not sure where this one is from?

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    A small pitcher by K.M.D Tiel Holland at 7 ounces.

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    Goblet, Huntly by Silcraft Melbourne Australia is 5.2 ounces.

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    Total 39.2 ounces, I paid $20

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    Nice! Thanks for the additions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    Nice! Thanks for the additions!
    You're welcome

    This is a great thread and I'll continue to keep an eye out for some more additions.

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