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    The bride and me have been stopping in consignment shops and thrist stores for years. Wish I would have read this post years ago.

    First time I read this thread was about two weeks ago and have reread it a few times since. We have been collecting up stuff for about a week now and have about 10lbs of definate and about the same in probably/maybe.

    If I set the pot on about 450-480 and take it one at a time, will this tell me if I have pewter on the maybe stuff? will the maybe stuff not melt at that temp? Not sure how to do this even after all this reading.

    One more question: I am finding little candle holders and such that are stamped pewter but are maid in china-etc. passes the nick test but have not seen yall discussing oriental modern pewter.
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    Melt something known, hold it at just melted and see if small chunks cut off the unknown will melt into it. That isn't a guarantee, but it is a pretty strong indicator.

    I've had stuff with oriental marks on it before. It melted at higher temperature and seemed to me it had a higher lead content. I find enough hallmarked, modern and probably lead free pieces at attractive enough prices that I just don't mess with anything else these days.

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    unknown content usually gets smelted singly by me , by that time i have a pretty good idea if it's the good stuff or not and whether to keep it separate , imashooter brings up a couple very good points , the smelting of a known gives you some experience as well , and i've found that food service items tend to be of the better quality eg; no lead . trinkets and what nots that one doesnt use for food/drink often has more lead ( less tin ) but ...so many alloys can be called pewter it isnt funny , the hallmarked stuff is indeed the best way to go until you gain the knowledge
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    I picked these up a few weeks ago. They have Banka-Tin stamped on them. They pass the bend test easy but the wife won't let me melt them anyway, says it's to pretty. They now sit in the china cabinet.

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    If you had bought them bent and dented, they would be in your casting pot instead of the china cabinet.

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    Got these items (pic is identical) from the thrift shop, dented up, for $3 out the door.

    Royal Holland Pewter Daalderop


    This hallmark, but added "DAALDEROP" to it.
    Due to market fluctuations I am no longer buying range scrap jackets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    Here is a link to Pewter Tankards and Flagons on The Wayback Machine. Not sure how long this will stay active, but for now it looks like the whole site is there intact.

    http://web.archive.org/web/201106261...dsflagons.com/
    I don't know if anyone would be interested but I put the pewter marks info, pics and all, from this link into a MS Word (Office 2003) .doc format. 146 page, 7.5mb in size. It is also set up in Document Map format which, when View>Document Map is chosen, gives a "Table of Contents" frame that links to specific main categories. I didn't get the "Shapes", "Thumbpieces", or "Links" pages.

    Don't know the best way to distribute though if there is interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt60 View Post
    I don't know if anyone would be interested but I put the pewter marks info, pics and all, from this link into a MS Word (Office 2003) .doc format. 146 page, 7.5mb in size. It is also set up in Document Map format which, when View>Document Map is chosen, gives a "Table of Contents" frame that links to specific main categories. I didn't get the "Shapes", "Thumbpieces", or "Links" pages.

    Don't know the best way to distribute though if there is interest.
    You can just attach it to one of your posts.
    If they won't let you attach the .doc format, then just put it in .zip format. I know you can attach zip files.
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    I've seen Cobalt60's document. It's a beauty and a lot of work went into creating it.

    That said, I don't know the impact to this site of posting / hosting copyrighted content from another (albeit defunct) website. I'd contact management before I just made an attachment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    I've seen Cobalt60's document. It's a beauty and a lot of work went into creating it.
    Thanks! More time spent than anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    That said, I don't know the impact to this site of posting / hosting copyrighted content from another (albeit defunct) website. I'd contact management before I just made an attachment...
    You are correct. Dealing a wee bit of a gray area, in my opinion also, so I'd rather keep CB at as little risk as possible. PM if interested and we'll see how that works.
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    Another pitcher. This one is 8 inches tall and has very heavy walls. Weighs a full pound and is 97% tin.

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    Another weighted candlestick. 9.0 ounces gross, only 4.4 ounces net.

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    A 7.5 X 4.5 inch dish, ~7 ounces...

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    A fair find today. 2 candlesticks and a neat box with a hinged lid. The box is 4.5 inches diameter for scale. The smaller candlestick is 6.6 ounces, the larger candlestick 8.9 ounces and the box is also 8.9 ounces.



    A couple new variations on hallmarks. The box is by Woodbury Pewterers, but has a logo from the Henry Ford Museum instead of their usual mark. The box also had a sticker on it. The larger candlestick is another piece of Web pewter with yet another variation on their mark.

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    I picked up a mug at the Hospice House with the Henry Ford Museum stamp today too. Nice photograph as mine is hard to read even with a magnifier.

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    A 5 inch covered tankard with solid bottom (11.4 ounces) and a classic 2.5 inch Jefferson cup (5.4 ounces). The tankard's hall mark was so faint that I couldn't get a picture, but it had the traditional "fine English pewter" and "made by craftsmen in Sheffield England" on it.

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    Here's one I hadn't seen before. Netted 8 ounces.

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    I saw this in a cartoon once. I'm pretty sure I can pull it off...

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    A tea set... The pot is about 4.5 inches tall and 5 inches diameter, 1 pound 6.7 ounces. The pot lid is 4.8 ounces. The cream and sugar are 2 inches tall, 3.5 inches diameter and weigh 6.2 ounces. Their lids are 1.9 ounces each. I love finding big plates / trays. They are always heavy. This one is 11.5 inches diameter and 1 pound 12.1 ounces. The whole set is just shy of 4.5 pounds total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imashooter2 View Post
    A tea set... The pot is about 4.5 inches tall and 5 inches diameter, 1 pound 6.7 ounces. The pot lid is 4.8 ounces. The cream and sugar are 2 inches tall, 3.5 inches diameter and weigh 6.2 ounces. Their lids are 1.9 ounces each. I love finding big plates / trays. They are always heavy. This one is 11.5 inches diameter and 1 pound 12.1 ounces. The whole set is just shy of 4.5 pounds total.
    If my wife saw that one it would end up in the china cabinet on display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch-1 View Post
    If my wife saw that one it would end up in the china cabinet on display.
    Then make sure the wife doesn't get to see it until it is a dented up pile of scrap.

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