WEBLEY 455-265-HB mould, 4 cavity brass Cramer style, Group Buy (GB) open

[Onty]

I need boolit/mould dia (.455 or .457) and/or e-mail address from following members. Also, let me know if you want solid base pins.

8. Colonel Flashman: e-mail and dia


15. bydand: dia



Other members; check the list for accuracy.

Please, post any additional info or correction here on the thread, even if I contact you by PM. It's much easier for me to control what I had done (or missed) than check this thread, PM and the PM from another forum. And thread will be bumped up to the top .

[dodgyrog]

May I order one please?
.457 hollow base with spare flat base pins
rogerjeffries04 at aol dot co dot uk
ATB
dodgyrog

[Onty]

Welcome, you are on the list.

[fossilnz]

Hi stuandmichelle at xnet dot co dot nz, please order me a four cavity mould in .455 rn hb. Thanks

[dakotamar]

4 cavity in .455

dude9550 at yahoo dot ca

thanks

[Rotaxxx]

I sent ya a pm on CGN I will take one of the moulds

Rotax599at hotmail dot com

[Onty]

Thanks to all, update done.

[fossilnz]

Thanks mate as said on the first page us Webley shooters have been waiting decades for something like this.... Awesome.

[Rotaxxx]

Can I also get a set of pins for the mould?

[Onty]

Can I also get a set of pins for the mould?

Done.

[rklute]

Hopefully this GB is still open, if it is I want one in .455

contact me at robert (at) klute (dot) us

[Onty]

Hopefully this GB is still open, if it is I want one in .455

contact me at robert (at) klute (dot) us

Welcome, GB still open.

[Foxfyre841]

I definitely want in as I just purchased a webley mkvi for my wife and am having a hard time finding ammo (been reloading 45LC so I can reload no problem).

Was there a standard diameter button used on the mk6 when broached? I can't find my cerro-safe to measure bore. If I need to I'll go get a soft ball and smack it in with wooden mallet but am worried that will mess up. Worst come s to worse, I could order 457 and fab a sizing plate from o-1 steel if it doesn't fit.

Thought i would ask you other webley shooters since you're all here now. PM me to keep this forum clear. I will edit this post to provide that information for other on-the-fencers.

[bonza]

What is the expected timeframe on these molds. No big hurry, just wondering.

[Onty]

What is the expected timeframe on these molds. No big hurry, just wondering.

Just sent message to Miha. My apology for late reply, I have big problem with internet lately.

[Tom Herman]

Put me down for one as well! .457" diameter. n1bec at msn dot com.
Many Thanks!

-Tom

[fred2892]

Onty, any idea where the picture of the bullet in your first post came from. I am just wondering about its accuracy in dimensions as I believe the .454 diameter on the picture is much too large.

I know the RCBS .455 mould casts at .452 as I have just picked up some more of these that have been sized down to .451.
Also on looking at the drawings for the service Webleys you can see the cylinder throats are .449



Heres the rifling



So you can see that even if you size down a cast boolit from .455 down a couple of thou to.453, then the cylinder throat will further swage down another 4 thou to .449 before it gets anywhere near the rifling. Not only will this smear the boolit (especially the lube grooves) but it will also raise pressures in these old guns.

What spurred me on to look into this was that I have just read an article in 'Target Gun' from august 1995 where the author had ordered a special order mould from RCBS to replicate the 455 webley naval bullet.



In the article he states that the webley he is using has chamber throats of .4495 and that previously he had sized his boolits to .452. However, for this mould he had a .450 sizing die made up by Jim Goodwin as he was unhappy at the .452 boolits overworking the case mouths as they were oversize.
So if .452 boolits were oversize and overworking the case mouths, what on earth are .455 or .457 boolits going to do?

I have a cartridge collector who lives nearby amd I will try and get an original .455 and pull the bullet to get some dimensions if anyone thinks it worthwhile.

This is not written to wind anyone up or piss on anyones fire, merely to confirm what you think you want is actually what you need. Apologies if any offence caused.

Fred

[Onty]

Thank you for comment. Drawing is from here http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.c...s-and-diagrams . As for RCBS size, I cannot comment it. However, regardless of dimensions of barrel and cylinder bores in literature, those dimensions on military MkVI could be quite bit different. Also, as far as I had seen, original (Canadian made) boolits were made from fairly soft lead, softer than wheel weight. So, I used original data to design boolit here, IMHO this is the safest way to go.

Regards, Onty

[fred2892]

Managed to scrounge an original and pulled the boolit on it.







So boolit diameter was .4495. Powder charge was 3.9 grains of what looked like chopped cordite and the boolit had a hardness of 8.2bhn and weighed 266.7gns.

This is where my drawings and dimensions came from







food for thought

Fred

[Springfield]

Just for fun I just took my mk6 and mk4 out of the safe and measured the throat at the front of the cylinder. The mk6 was .450 and the mk4 was almost .451. I just used a caliper but they are obviously smaller than the .454-.455 I was assuming they were. Maybe I might not want a .457 mould.