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    Old Ideal 356402

    Recently I purchased ( at a gun show in Birmingham ) an IDEAL bullet mold.
    It is a single cav. mold. It is the 356402, a trucanted cone design weighing 125 grs., plain based.

    The mold has a very slight " ripple " on the nose which has absolutely nothing to do with it's ability to shoot accurately. I only paid $20 ( out the door, no tax ) for the mold. I wonder if a chip was spun around the nose by the cherrie when the mold was cut ? I once read that some people had the ability to purchase rejects out the " back door " from Lyman ? ? In the photo below, I'm using a flat nose punch on my Lyman 45, so what you see on the nose isn't from an improper fitting nose punch.

    The mold cast large enough that the bullet sizes nice and round to .3575".

    What is unique about the mold is that today's Lyman 356402 doesn't offer a crimp shoulder on their bullet design .........my version does.

    The crimp ring feature allows this one bullet to be used in the 357 mag, 38 Spec., 380 Auto, 9 mm Luger, 38 Super, 357 sig, etc.

    A pretty versatile bullet that could be pressed into service in several different calibers.

    Yesterday, I fired up the pot and cast a few. This morning, I lubed and sized them to .3575 ".

    Ben



    Last edited by Ben; 09-17-2011 at 04:16 PM.

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    Ben I have the same 1 cavity mold

    I liked that boolit so much for my 9MM's and 38 Supers, I also bought a 4 cavity of the same. I have threatened to load some in 38 special and 357 mag cases, but never had.

    The more I look at it the more I think I am going to send it off to Erick and have the 1 cavity hollow pointed.

    I'm sure you will like it too.
    TwoTrees

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    I may also do the same identical thing ?

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    I just sold this 1



    It weighed 140+ gr. & was a bit long for a GP100s cyl. unless ya crimped over the trunication .010" or so .

    It shot fairly good & loaded from speed loaders like they had eyes !!!

    Looks as if yours caught a chip & notched the cherrie .

    Have fun !!!

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    Just enuff to lay the roll crimp on it good
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    Looks as if yours caught a chip & notched the cherrie .

    Yep, that's what I think also.
    Of course, it has no affect on accuracy as far as I can tell.

    Ben

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    Ben, on yours, and a lot of old Ideals, there's apronounced driving band as well. On the newer Lymans, I've noticed that the body just blends into the ogive with no step./beagle
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    Guess, I better hold onto this one.

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