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Thread: 312-314 pistol bullet 6 cavity ?

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    Greg,
    I've been using the Lee C113 to good effect in a Marlin 1889 that I managed to get an 1893 barrel for. The original 32-20 bore was/is unshootable as is,,, and I managed to get what I would classify as a "fair" bore in same on Ebay. The newer barrel is shooting very well with 4.8gr of Blue Dot under a WSR primer and the unchecked/unsized Lee, ~.313" > .314". Minute of claybird shards at 50 yards dancing around on the bank at the range off my elbows. VERY satisfying after struggling to get any better than shotgun patterns at 50'. I got in on the group buy for the 6cav Lee offering, and have been pleasantly surprised how well it's doing without a check. I'll get a .314 size die and wind some up with some Lil Gun or 2400. No chrony data on the 4.8gr of Blue Dot, but I'm guessing 1100-1200fps. Neglibible recoil, and not a lot of noise, though I'm guessing by the crack that I'm over Mach 1.
    I've also managed to crank up the Lee to 2300fps in the 30-30 with excellent accuracy,,,,, a great little boolit. Personally I'd like something just a bit more refined, but increasingly coming to the conclusion that I've got to start gettting Dan at mountain molds to custom cut for me. His online design tool is excellent.
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    Well my goal in this is to get a good mold for 32/20 hand ejector, K32, and Single six 32 H&R magnum......but I would far prefer a 6 cavity to a 2 or 4.

    with the cowboy action craze going on this mold would sell well and it would behoove Lee to just make it themselves....BUT then they would make it like the 230 grain 45 caliber roundnose 6 cavity I have that does not quite make a 452 bullet from WW....451ish.


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    Rrusse11 you stated "Personally I'd like something just a bit more refined"
    In what way are you thinking refined?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregg
    Rrusse11 you stated "Personally I'd like something just a bit more refined"
    In what way are you thinking refined?
    Gregg,
    Well, the problem with any of our "design by committee" boolits, is that of necessity, they have to accomadate a wide range of users, and guns.
    The Lee C113 is a good boolit, and works for me as I've said in a variety of velocities, and cartridges. What I'd like for the 32-20 is possibly something a bit lighter, checked, with a longer nose and a minimal meplat. Purpose built/designed specifically for MY Marlin, and my ideas, {;o). This is where Dan at mountainmolds comes into his own with the capability of doing a true 'one-of'. Haven't availed myself yet of his services, but I'm a gonna' get rountuit!
    Hope that answers ur question.
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    Willbird.
    I am like you, have a M16-4 Smith Wesson in a 4", plus a Ruger SSM in a 4 5/8". Have been using a Saeco 95 gr SWC, in both the pistols in H&R cases and S&W long cases, with good results.
    Picked up a RCBS 32 SWC mould, but have not cast any yet, simply want something a little heavier for the H&R ammo. So have been looking at the Lyman 3118 an thinking that should do it, BUT want a 4 cav at the min.

    I would be in for at least one mould in a 6 cav, if it is like the Lyman 3118.

    Jim Wisner
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Wisner
    Willbird.
    I am like you, have a M16-4 Smith Wesson in a 4", plus a Ruger SSM in a 4 5/8". Have been using a Saeco 95 gr SWC, in both the pistols in H&R cases and S&W long cases, with good results.
    Picked up a RCBS 32 SWC mould, but have not cast any yet, simply want something a little heavier for the H&R ammo. So have been looking at the Lyman 3118 an thinking that should do it, BUT want a 4 cav at the min.

    I would be in for at least one mould in a 6 cav, if it is like the Lyman 3118.

    Jim Wisner
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    Gents,
    Not being familiar with the 3118, I found it at castpics.net. Any votes for the 31133?
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    Either 3118 or 31133 would work for me, they look like nice bullets.



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    The 31133 is the hollow point version of the 3118/311008. Having used that bullet for a long time, I find it suffers only in that it lacks a crimp groove. Otherwise its a very good bullet as long as the nose isn't undersize.

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    Well the crimp groove issue could be surely resolved with a click of the ole mouse

    I am on the verge of buying one of these just to have bullets to shoot

    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=254640

    I would still be interested in a group buy for a bullet with more meplet and a larger dia tho.

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    How about the soup can with a plain base? and larger diameter?

    http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=480790

    It would be real easy to ask for, and no cad work??

    I just picked up 2 32 S&W top breaks and a 32 H&R mag, so I'll be needing something to feed these.

    Somebody decide and tell me where to send the money.

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    That would be a good bullet...............I'd be for that.

    I bought a 93 grain roundnose 6 cavity, been playing with it a bit, it drops them .314-.315, for once a Lee went to the side of the dia tolerance that helps me hehe. It takes a while to get mold temp stabilised with that tiny amount of lead being poured into those large blocks.


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    Well lets have interested people call off

    I would be up for (2) molds, and Will Honcho if nobody else is interested.....if we can get up to say 20 takers I will take the last (5) to make the 25, the extras will go on Egay, this should be a popular mold with many uses, and nothing quite like it is avail.

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    Just which bullet are we talking about, since there have been several mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45 2.1
    Just which bullet are we talking about, since there have been several mentioned.
    45,
    If we go a PB version, I really like ur drwg in post #8. We have the capacity here to come up with something new. What's that as drawn, about a .300" nose and .200" meplat in the 110-120gr range?
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    I do agree that is a right purdy bullet in post #8


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    0.314" with wheelweights
    Meplat = 0.200"
    Nose to crimp = 0.285"
    Close to the 311008 at 118 gr.
    Last edited by 45 2.1; 07-10-2005 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45 2.1
    Meplat = 0.200"
    Nose to crimp = 0.285"
    Close to the 311008 at 118 gr.
    You can put me down for one of those! As cast diam. .314-.316"? That'd work for me.
    Cheers all,
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    Thumbs up

    Dang! Here we go again. Count me in for one.

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    Hmmmmmmmm, well I'll assume 45 and Will will take one @, so we've got 4 already,,,,,,,,,, {:o).
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    Well, you all know I have 32-itis, so lets see a final drawing and I'll probably go for 2. My thought woould be an exact replica of the 311316 GC or PB maybe scaled up to around 120-125 gr. This would be perfect for rifles. A .314 or.315 Soup Can would also work.

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