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    The most accurate revolver I have ever fired was a buddy's Clement's custom S&W Model 28 converted to .44 Special. My buddy is a gunsmith and had a safe queen that Clement's wanted, so he acquired this custom revolver through trade, otherwise my buddy said he would never be able to afford such a gun.

    I assume we are talking about accuracy downrange, say at least 50 yards or so. I also shoot at multiple close targets fast. I shoot Colt SAA's and even though 5 of my Colt's are 4 3/4" bbl's I can hit better with this one Colt than I can the other 4. Oddly enough I can hit better with this one short barrel Colt than I can two others that have 7 1/2" bbls. I believe it is because of the nice trigger. I mention this because of the 4" Python comments. I can't believe a 4" Python could compete with a FA 83 on a IHMSA course, but a 4" Python in the right hands would be just the medicine in a dynamic need to hit situation.

    I quit bench resting pistols, find no value in it. It's all two hand hold, Keith sitting position or Creedmore now. That's how pistols are used.

    Recently I was shooting my .357 Colt SAA 7 1/2" at 12 inch steel plates at 50 yards and could not miss. I was thinking I was real good, then the sun dropped below the tree line and couldn't hit a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by white eagle View Post
    are these groups you all speak of "having a good day"
    or are they consistently shot as such ?
    It will be consistent, and if I shake, hits can be called. Vision is a problem as are shakes, but the gun has to shoot to the sights.

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    S&W model 19-3 target hammer and trigger. First gun I ever bought..

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    Honestly, just about all of them. Most revolvers shoot pretty darn tight right out of the box. Most Smiths and Colts will shoot 1" at 25, many Rugers will do the same.

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    I have a GP100 that the first shots were 8 out of 12 were in a 3" orange dot at 75` & I`m not that good of a shot , it`s home to stay !!!

    I forget the model # but a S&W I owned in 41mag when younger , I swear you could shoot north & it`d hit the 10 ring south , it was the only smith that actually fit my hand .

    Feel & comfort play a big part in shootability , especially with handguns , wheelies or sliders !!!
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    I've heard FA .22's get MOA accuracy right out of the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Jack Hammer View Post
    I've heard FA .22's get MOA accuracy right out of the box.
    That they do! It just might be the best .22 revolver ever made, even better then the K22. I have shot many Ruger .22 revolvers and none were good.
    The hardest caliber to make accurate in a revolver has to be the .22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Jack Hammer View Post
    The most accurate revolver I have ever fired was a buddy's Clement's custom S&W Model 28 converted to .44 Special. My buddy is a gunsmith and had a safe queen that Clement's wanted, so he acquired this custom revolver through trade, otherwise my buddy said he would never be able to afford such a gun.

    I assume we are talking about accuracy downrange, say at least 50 yards or so. I also shoot at multiple close targets fast. I shoot Colt SAA's and even though 5 of my Colt's are 4 3/4" bbl's I can hit better with this one Colt than I can the other 4. Oddly enough I can hit better with this one short barrel Colt than I can two others that have 7 1/2" bbls. I believe it is because of the nice trigger. I mention this because of the 4" Python comments. I can't believe a 4" Python could compete with a FA 83 on a IHMSA course, but a 4" Python in the right hands would be just the medicine in a dynamic need to hit situation.

    I quit bench resting pistols, find no value in it. It's all two hand hold, Keith sitting position or Creedmore now. That's how pistols are used.

    Recently I was shooting my .357 Colt SAA 7 1/2" at 12 inch steel plates at 50 yards and could not miss. I was thinking I was real good, then the sun dropped below the tree line and couldn't hit a thing.
    I don't bench test handguns either. I rate the 4" Python as MY best simply I can hit more, at longer ranges with it than any thing else I own. This includes a Model 29 6". No scopes on any of my handguns. When pulling down on a feral cat or running coyote the Colt works best for me.
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    Have had several CONSISTENTLY accurate revolvers...

    6" 1960's Colt Python with wadcutters, same for a few 6" K-38's over the years.

    S&W Performance Center Lt Wt Hunter , in .41 magnum. If I can keep up my end of the bargain...all shots at 25 yds SHOULD touch, with my 210 gr cast /7.0 of Unique field load.

    FA M-83 with the .45 Colt cyl installed. Another "all shots should touch" at 25 yds gun. And sub 3" at 50 yd groups.

    Also have a Wilson Combat 5" 1911 that has been scary accurate right out of the box.

    FN in MT

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    I believe Dean Grennel said it best when testing a bunch of revolvers 30 years ago for one of his "Pistol & Revolver Digest", REVOLVERS have personality! The python he was using that day didn't do any better than the Smiths and was outshot by a Ruger. I am a Colt collector and any of my officer models (pre-war, special, match and even a MKIII OMM) will shoot very well. My Pythons (6 in. and 8 in. hunter) shoot as well. It is almost cheating with a 8 in. Scoped Python. Both of my Colt SAA 45(7 1/2 and 12 in. Buntline) clang a 16 in. steel plate at 100 yards about 90% of the time with my reloads. The only autos that I own that can keep up are my series 70 Gold Cup and Match target woodsman 22.

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    F.A. 83 no question.

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    I had a Smith 686 with a 6" barrel that used to make me look good.

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    I respectfully would like to add the Smith Model 27 into this field. It was the most accurate revolver I owned when I had my 5-inch, and My Outdoorsman .38-44 with correct handloads is right behind it. From the list however, I recall my first Model 29 with a 6-inch barrel and how accurate that gun was.

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    S&W K38 Model 14
    I also have a 5" Model 10 .38 that is a close second to the Model 14.

    Had a Colt Gold Cup once. It never shot any better than a Government Model.

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    Most accurate for me is a toss-up between K-38 bought new in '72 and M29 6 1/2" bought in '74. Both are outstanding. The M29 using 429421 has shot some amazing groups for me.

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    The most accurate revolver out of the box that I have owned is my BFR in .500 JRH. It will consistently shoot under an inch at 50 yards if I do my part. bfrshooter shot a 3-shot group with it that was a 1/4-inch at 50 yards. It is scary accurate.
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    FA, model 83
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    Here's a mighty good Freedom. Can't beat that quality.


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    From my experience, and if you are talking about the raw accuracy of the gun, and NOT how well you can shoot it, I would put the FA revolvers with their single action design and line-bored cylinders at the very top of the list. I have yet to see one that wasn't superb.

    Next in line would be current production S&W magnum revolvers, with the nod going to the X-frames. With modern CNC equipment, tool wear compensation, etc., current Smiths are more consistent, have better tolerances, and better bore/throat dimensions than any guns that factory has ever made. Scoped and off sandbags, two to three MOA are the rule.

    As others have pointed out, buy 100 identical guns and you'll get a variation in how well they shoot, particularly if the guns were made under different management. In the past, this variation could be substantial. Now, much less so, at least from the top manufacturers. When my batch of JR/PC .500 guns was delivered, I pulled five at random from the shipment and could not detect a difference in accuracy. All shot groups averaging 2 1/4" at 100 yards with ammo of proven quality. This is scoped and off sandbags, of course.

    YMMV.
    JR--the .500 specialist

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    I've had outstanding accuracy from two S&W M-29's, both would shoot into 1-1/2" @ 25 yds with hand loads. Heavy, but great hunting and range guns, one had a 6" barrel, the other was a Classic with a 6-1/2" barrel. Rod

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