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Thread: Review of 22LR to 224 Kaine Dies by DanR

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    Review of 22LR to 224 Kaine Dies by DanR

    This thread is for the posting of results .
    I'm happy with the dies and how they work i post some pic of what i did with them so far

    this is my derim cases AKA jackets

    a bout 30 mints worth waiting to be size

    some all set to load yes the long one is a full 22mag not sher i will soot it just was playing with the dies.
    I made some FMJ their to the far left
    o and the funky one was one i flip and reswage just to see what it look like
    i will get out and shoot some as soon as i get my powder shipping being slow
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    Did you have to anneal the brass at any point in the process?

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    I hope to soon get the dies he sent... and then I'll be spending some of my short amount of time cranking a few of these out.. I can hardly wait!

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    What is the diameter of the meplat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newcastter View Post
    Did you have to anneal the brass at any point in the process?
    yes anneal the brass was the first thing i did even before cleaning them and they derim a lot better if you do

    i clean after anneal the brass and 2 time after derim that way the dies stay clean
    if you do a cleaning after anneal the brass theirs less to make the brass get stuck on the derim punch

    o and i did some out of brass tubing last night its thick tubing and made some relay nice looking bluets
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    The meplat is the tip of the bullet, it's where the ogive comes to a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kombayotch View Post
    The meplat is the tip of the bullet, it's where the ogive comes to a point.
    the Meplat its what ever you want it to bee
    Last edited by xfoxofshogo; 08-04-2011 at 12:56 PM. Reason: sorry spell sheck did that

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfoxofshogo View Post
    the Meplat its what ever you want it to bee
    Unless there is a separate point forming die it will be the same size as the orifice of the ejector punch hole.

    Do the dies have a point forming punch?

    If it does then the point could be sharp or round depending on the amount of lead exposed and the pressure before deformation.
    Just fold copper on lead...

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    Moved up the list!!!!!


    Hope to have some dies next week and post pictures shortly after that.


    (couldn't figure out how to subscribe without a post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Prepper View Post
    Unless there is a separate point forming die it will be the same size as the orifice of the ejector punch hole.

    Do the dies have a point forming punch?

    If it does then the point could be sharp or round depending on the amount of lead exposed and the pressure before deformation.
    oooo you whant to know if thay can be sharp out of the die no but its not hard to do and the ejector size is 0.102 so i guss its close to this for the brass will get smaller i will post a pic of a point after forming with no lead tip

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    I want to know what the bullet weighed that you made with a full 22 mag case.
    Spear chunking might come back into style!!

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    sorry my pic up close get fuzzy bit lead you can get pointy the brass gets hard to get it so small the smallest is this one i have done with out a point form punch

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    I must be mensa material then.. my work area is immensely crowded.. some would say downright messy... (my wife included).. I received my die set today but am bummed that I don't have the time atm to get some bullets made up.. maybe tomorrow or this weekend..

    I feel like a kid in a candy store!! lol

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    my work area is not messy.. its crammed.. i know exactly where everything is.. and everything has its own spot.. though, my wife says its messy as well..

    i keep saying to the wife, its not a mess, its my arrangement system!


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    its my arrangement system!
    I'll have to use that line

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    I have found the Rem brass less that accomodating, but the Winchester (super X), Federal (F), and CCI (C) brass all are good when annealed and the rim taken off. The lube that Dan sent was semi liquid when it sat in my garage, so I used some 75/25 lanolin/castor oil I made up for swaging the larger 9mm into 40 cal swaged stuff using BT's dies.. That worked a bit better.. I have to drill out the Lee mold maybe tomorrow so I can get some cores made and cut.. little by little I am getting closer..

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    Yeah the CCi's ring up at 9.5 every time I weigh them. I am sticking with those.
    "Consequently we move away from other shooters to remain focused on our passion, as our ideas are quickly dismissed or misunderstood by others. Sharing does not come easily for swagers, not because they are necessarily selfish, but because they have been whittling away in their only little world for so long, that being able to relate to others what they understand is no simple task."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibgp3 View Post
    I want to know what the bullet weighed that you made with a full 22 mag case.
    Spear chunking might come back into style!!
    the 22 mag one is right at 117.3 gr and still have a nuff room to add 15 gr to it
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    o just to let you all know I'm not using that lube swage lube stuff i did and it works but i like this other stuff

    I'm using some rcbs case lube-2 it is water soluble so you can wash it right off not telling you to use it but it is what works for me its 4 buck for 2oz buy the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfoxofshogo View Post
    o just to let you all know I'm not using that lube swage lube stuff i did and it works but i like this other stuff

    I'm using some rcbs case lube-2 it is water soluble so you can wash it right off not telling you to use it but it is what works for me its 4 buck for 2oz buy the way
    ????

    I am lost.
    "Consequently we move away from other shooters to remain focused on our passion, as our ideas are quickly dismissed or misunderstood by others. Sharing does not come easily for swagers, not because they are necessarily selfish, but because they have been whittling away in their only little world for so long, that being able to relate to others what they understand is no simple task."

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