Please show off you're .32's

[Outpost75]

Nobody has posted any pictures of .32 rifles, so I thought that I should,

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[Fergie]

Can you tell us more about those Rook rifles? I've got a H&R shotgun waiting to be lined for .327 and turned into a nice single shot.

Here is my Single Seven(solo siete) from when I first shot it.



I'll have to find the pictures of my old Charter Arms .32 H&R Magnum. Also have a Tomcat that is carried quite often.

Just today I was out shooting the SS with some different loadings of .327 and I forgot how much I like the .32 in general.

[Outpost75]

Can you tell us more about those Rook rifles? I've got a H&R shotgun waiting to be lined for .327 and turned into a nice single shot.....

To build a .327 you would not want to use one of the small iron receiver shotgun actions, but would need one of the modern SB2s, but that makes for a very much heavier rifle. I wanted a very light walking gun of less than 5 pounds, and had John Taylor fabricate .32 H&R Magnum, .38 Special .45 ACP and .44-40 barrels to fit my pre-war 28-ga. and .44/11mm frames. We didn't do a "stub" conversion, because I wanted multiple barrels and also wanted to keep the .410 shotgun barrel as an option and I often carry the .410 with an extra handgun caliber barrel as a traveling or backpacking rig to accompany whichever I might have along. John bushed the firing breech faces of both receivers and fitted new, smaller diameter firing pins to avoid the primer cups flowing around the striker point.

The tiny iron .410 and 28-ga. shotgun frames are OK for the .32 H&R Magnum, but not high pressure rounds like the .327 Federal. The rim diameter of the .327 Federal is .375", approximately 0.11 sq.-in., so at a maximum pressure of 45,000 psi breech thrust is nearly 5000 lbs.

The .32 H&R Magnum at a maximum pressure of 22,500 psi generates 2475 lbs. of thrust, similar to a 28-ga. or .410 shotgun round, for which the action was designed.

The English rook rifle shown was an Army & Navy C.S. originally chambered in .255, which I got cheap because it had a rusted out barrel. I had John Taylor bush the breech face, reline and rechamber it for .32 S&W Long, with 16" twist. After doing so I sent the gun off to Lucas Geiger for exterior restoration having the wood refinished, checking recut, minor cracks repaired, the frame re-case colored, a new hinge pin fitted and the barrel rust blued. The scope is a pre-war Unertl 6X small game scope.

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[Captain Wheelgun]

Those are some nice rifles. I really, really want a rifle in .327 Fed to go with my S&W 632. I'm looking at either a Contender with a custom barrel or maybe rebarreling a .223 bolt action. Since the .327's rim diameter is within 1 or 2 thousandths of the .223's head diameter, it should not need any work on the bolt face. The Ruger American may work fo this because it uses a rotary magazine, which should hopefully reduce feeding issues, though it may not eliminate them.

[Green Frog]

These semi autos you guys are showing off make me want to renew my search for the Femaru that was made during WW II for the Nazis and chambering the 32 ACP. It was an adaptation of the 380 version made before the war.

Froggie

[35remington]

I'd vote Contender due to the very short and slim action that is more consonant with a small game type rifle.



A very clean 32 Regulation Police in 4 1/4. Along with an RCBS 98 SWC and a 313492 fired from the same revolver and recovered from wet phone books. Yeah.....I paid for it. Not sorry I got it, though. A very good shooter even with the very fine sights.....as long as I don't stand too far from the target.

[dragon813gt]

I debate buying the third one every day.

[prsman23]

[Fergie]

To build a .327 you would not want to use one of the small iron receiver shotgun actions, but would need one of the modern SB2s, but that makes for a very much heavier rifle. I wanted a very light walking gun of less than 5 pounds, and had John Taylor fabricate .32 H&R Magnum, .38 Special .45 ACP and .44-40 barrels to fit my pre-war 28-ga. and .44/11mm frames. We didn't do a "stub" conversion, because I wanted multiple barrels and also wanted to keep the .410 shotgun barrel as an option and I often carry the .410 with an extra handgun caliber barrel as a traveling or backpacking rig to accompany whichever I might have along. John bushed the firing breech faces of both receivers and fitted new, smaller diameter firing pins to avoid the primer cups flowing around the striker point.

The tiny iron .410 and 28-ga. shotgun frames are OK for the .32 H&R Magnum, but not high pressure rounds like the .327 Federal. The rim diameter of the .327 Federal is .375", approximately 0.11 sq.-in., so at a maximum pressure of 45,000 psi breech thrust is nearly 5000 lbs.

The .32 H&R Magnum at a maximum pressure of 22,500 psi generates 2475 lbs. of thrust, similar to a 28-ga. or .410 shotgun round, for which the action was designed.

Thank you for that info.

What did you do for the extractor? Machine one from scratch or modify one from another similarly sized caliber?

I had been in contact with David White at D&T Customs(http://www.dandtcustomgunworks.com/gallery.html) and no mention of breech thrust was mentioned. He is of the opinion that a 20ga H&R can be lined for a .327 just fine. What are your thoughts on that?

Again, thanks for the description of those rifles, especially the English.

[Outpost75]

....What did you do for the extractor? Machine one from scratch or modify one from another similarly sized caliber? I had been in contact with David White at D&T Customs(http://www.dandtcustomgunworks.com/gallery.html) and no mention of breech thrust was mentioned. He is of the opinion that a 20ga H&R can be lined for a .327 just fine. What are your thoughts on that?.....

John Taylor built everything from scratch and did a first class job.

If somebody says he can build a .327 on an iron shotgun receiver, please ask how many he has built and how many full charge factory loads he will guarantee them for before they loosen up, and if he will fix them for free if the firing pin bushing sets back in the receiver or the action loosens up....

John and I had this discussion on a Beretta 412 folding .410 shotgun which I wanted a rifle barrel for. He did a .44 Magnum for me which has been wonderful. He refused to do a .303 British because he said it would shoot loose. He offered to do a .30-40 Krag instead, which I did and have been happy with. He supported his recommendations with the calculations so that I could understand his reasoning, including hardness measurements of my receiver locking surfaces.

He machined the barrel monobloc so that the bar was oriented perpendicular to the bore axis so that the loads would be distributed transverse across the grain boundaries, the same way it is done at the Beretta factory.

On my .45 ACP barrel which fits the 28-ga. H&R pre-war frame, he fabricated a rimless ejector with works positively with .45 ACP rounds and also made a new fore-end iron from scratch. This gets into the category that if you have to ask what it costs, that maybe you cannot afford it, but if that is really what you want, it is worth every penny. Less than a new black rifle for sure.

You will notice that the .45 ACP barrel has a rim seat in its breech. That is so I can use shotshells assembled in 5 in 1 movie blank cases. They also work in my .45 Ruger convertible revolver, my .44-40 Vaquero and several other guns in camp.


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[rintinglen]

A couple more that have come to stay. That 7 .5 inch gun really wants to shoot!

[dougader]

I'm really liking the Ruger Single Seven in 327 Federal mag.

[rking22]

Remington M25 in 3220


OK that worked, M31 tomorrow


S&W 31-1 from late 60s 32SWL

[justashooter]

A S&W 1903 Hand Ejector 5th Change, bobbed hammer belly gun. Six shots of 32 S&W Long in a 1912 vintage I-frame.

[billybadmedicine]

My little pack of 32s
2 single 6s a Heritage 32 Mag and an old H&R.

[stu1ritter]

Humph, how did I ever miss this thread. From upper left, 30-1, 431pd, 16-4, 1903 3rd change, pre-30, 1903 5th change and most carried KelTek P-32
Stu

[Andyd]

I got some .32 ACPs



and a serious .32 S&W Long, it is the lower one

[EMC45]

Korth?

[JSnover]

Tomcat

[Fergie]

Tomcat

I was out shooting mine on Friday. Fresh load of some Cor-bons and back into my pocket after a good cleaning. I do like the wider trigger on this model than my previous one, and the wider safety too. Makes the ergonomics that much better.