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Thread: "go to " powder .38 Special/.357 Magnum?

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    "go to " powder .38 Special/.357 Magnum?

    I'm new to loading for the .38Special or .357 Magnum. Of corse I'd like to use cast boolits both GC and not GC . Probably going to start w/ my Lee 158gr.GC and later want to get a non GC mold...not about velocity but accuracy...Can you folks steer me to a good powder for this purpose ?....thanks...Tedly

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    Unique.
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    Hodgen Universal. Same burn rate as unique, but is cleaner and meters better.

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    Bullseye and Unique.

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    granted I'm a minority ...

    But I always try Winchester 231 first because it meters so well from my dillon 550. It works great out of my ruger
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    WSF. (use Herco load data, but don't get crazy about it in case it's not a perfect match) It measures as good as 231 but it has longer legs.

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    Bullseye or Unique

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    For full house .357 loads 2400 is hard to beat. A powder that hasn't been mentioned is Power Pistol, close to Unique in burn rate and meters like Bullseye. Take a look at the data on the Alliant web site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zxcvbob View Post
    WSF. (use Herco load data, but don't get crazy about it in case it's not a perfect match) It measures as good as 231 but it has longer legs.
    True enough. 90 percent of my loads are light wadcutter plinking loads. When I want performance loads I use Unique. I will have to try the WSF. Unique is just that tho. Love it.
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    I have used AA#7 in the .357 and Bullseye, 231, and AA#5 in the .38.

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    For a 158-170 grain bullet, 3.5 grains of HP-38 or 700X are incredibly accurate. 5.1 grains of the same powders are excellent, but loose a little accuracy. Maybe 1/4 inch at 25 yards, off a rest.

    For magnum loads, H110 is also very accurate.

    These are using for 357 and using 357 brass. I haven't shot the light loads in a 38 Special.

    I've shared a spreadsheet (357 magnum) with accuracy results from the best loads that I've found. It's at

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...CKzluvMC#gid=0

    All the tests are done with multiple 5 shot groups, off a rest, and either a Red Dot or a Simmons scope. It might give you some ideas.

    I also share a list of Skeeter Skelton's old favorite loads. They aren't all safe according to todays loading manuals. But some are, so glean and learn what you can, look up the loads to be safe.

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/spre...thkey=CJbU0YoJ
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    +1 on Universal. Either that or Clays.
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    For .38 Special, tough to beat Bullesye or Clays, just be careful, you can fit about four maximum charges of Bullesye in there!

    For .357 Magnum, Universal or Unique for most stuff, 2400 for serious work.

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    For plinkers; 3.5g of bullseye (.38 or .357)

    Hot loads; 14g of 2400 (.357, no sense in loading .38's hot when I can use the .357... For me anyway)

    These are the loads I use, I am not responsible for errors or typos. Use at your own risk. (CYA disclaimer)

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    Looks like they have it covered above pretty well.
    I'm sorting out and refining some loads with AA9. It's real close to H110 & 2400. Cleaner than 2400 and more flexible with reduced loading than H110.
    Of the powders listed above, Unique is probably the dirtiest, but most flexible with the most data. 700-X has a lot of data also and is supposed to be pretty clean. I am just starting to load with it.

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    357shooter... thanks for posting the tables!
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    I like Unique but also use Trail Boss for cast. It's almost idiot proof in that you can't double charge it in the case. Full power I use 2400.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpbarry1 View Post
    357shooter... thanks for posting the tables!
    +1 that was good info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpbarry1 View Post
    357shooter... thanks for posting the tables!
    Quote Originally Posted by Blov View Post
    +1 that was good info.
    You're welcome. The results may not be exactly the same in every revolver, but after testing and measuring thousands of rounds, these are the best I've found.

    They also work the best in a 357 lever action too, which was a nice surprise.
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    Groo here
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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