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    lucked out with 358429

    I bought this mold, one I have wanted for a long time, from this site. It is an older Lyman 2-cavity and looked ok on the surface, but the blocks did not mate perfectly; there were gaps between them when held up to the light.
    Nothing ventured, nothing gained....so I went ahead and started casting with them anyway, hoping for the best. To my amazement they cast very decent boolits ! Seemed like the gap disappeared as the mold got hotter. The boolits dropped at 0.3585 (perfect diameter for me) and 168 grains.
    I was real happy to see this old casting mold do what it was designed for !!
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    That is one of my favorites I am sure you will have fun with those!
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    Good news!

    Try this one.



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    Nice shooting Bill!
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    Nice shooting! The 358429 is one of the top bullets in a 357, and the absolute best with magnum loads.

    Does it fit your gun (can you use the crimp groove), or do you crimp on the front driving band? Both ways work really well, just curious.

    Gotta love those softies!
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    It fits all my revolvers, I have specifically NOT purchased a S&W M27 or
    28 because of the short cylinder.

    I get crazy when some expert says that it is impossible to shoot .357
    full power loads without water dropped, linotype and/or GC design. Just
    isn't necessary if you have a good design, a good lube and a good fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtGun44 View Post
    It fits all my revolvers, I have specifically NOT purchased a S&W M27 or
    28 because of the short cylinder.

    I get crazy when some expert says that it is impossible to shoot .357
    full power loads without water dropped, linotype and/or GC design. Just
    isn't necessary if you have a good design, a good lube and a good fit.

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    I noticed the 8 BHN. tHAT EVEN SURPRISED ME A BIT!
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    My 357's like BHN7-8 for all loads. Both in revolver and lever action. Light and full house.

    Had to figure out how to soften WW as pure lead is nowhere to be found right now.
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    Would any of you be willing to send me 6-10 samples of the 358429 bullet you are casting. I would like to use this bullet/mold for my 357, but not sure it will fit in the cylinder.

    I am shooting a very old (first build?) Taurus 4" model 66. I believe it is built from old Smith parts from when Taurus took over the factory. I just am unsure about whether the bullet - crimped in the crimp groove - will work.

    Also, does anyone shoot this bullet in 38 SCP/38 SPC+P brass? I have heard that the 38 SPC+P brass is a solution for a short cylinder. Thanx

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    Sure send me a PM with your address. I may not get them in the mail to you until I return from a trip though.

    Mine is a S&W M66 and they are fine in 357 mag brass. I have not tried them in 38spl yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarflytyer View Post
    Would any of you be willing to send me 6-10 samples of the 358429 bullet you are casting. I would like to use this bullet/mold for my 357, but not sure it will fit in the cylinder.

    I am shooting a very old (first build?) Taurus 4" model 66. I believe it is built from old Smith parts from when Taurus took over the factory. I just am unsure about whether the bullet - crimped in the crimp groove - will work.

    Also, does anyone shoot this bullet in 38 SCP/38 SPC+P brass? I have heard that the 38 SPC+P brass is a solution for a short cylinder. Thanx
    You'll probably have more luck using 38 Spec brass with that revolver. My Ruger GP100 will take that boolit in 357 cases but the cylinder is longer than the Taurus.
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    My Taurus 66 will take the NOE version of the 429 crimped in the groove. But longer versions, like the Lyman, get crimped on the band. An OAL of 1.620, with a light crimp works best, even with magnum loads.
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    I have two four cavity Lyman 358429 moulds. The first one I bought at a flea market for $10.00 with handles sans wood in 1975. I also got a four cavity 358311 38-158-RNPB at the same time for the same price with handles sans wood. Choped up and drilled an old pool cue for handles.

    This mould actually dropped 168 grains with wheel weights and did good service in four S&W Mod. 10's, two 38 Combat Masterpices, a K38 and a Mod. 19. Mostly in 38 Special cases.

    If you're seeing daylight between the blocks. the alignment pins are interfering a bit preventing full closure. This can be fixed by laying the mould on a lead ingot and tapping lightly with a lead hammer or a one pound ingot. I have done this with several Lyman moulds with no ill effects. Keyword "lightly".
    How's that hope and change working for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarflytyer View Post
    Would any of you be willing to send me 6-10 samples of the 358429 bullet you are casting. I would like to use this bullet/mold for my 357, but not sure it will fit in the cylinder.

    I am shooting a very old (first build?) Taurus 4" model 66. I believe it is built from old Smith parts from when Taurus took over the factory. I just am unsure about whether the bullet - crimped in the crimp groove - will work.

    Also, does anyone shoot this bullet in 38 SCP/38 SPC+P brass? I have heard that the 38 SPC+P brass is a solution for a short cylinder. Thanx
    If you still need a sample of these send me a PM with your address.

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    I have used these boolits in 38 Special for almost fifty years. Elmer Keith provided me with my favorite load which was 11 grains of 2400. These clocked at 1,042 fps out of my 6 inch Colt 357 and are accurate in every revolver that I have fired them in. Fired out of an old five inch S&W Military Special they shoot through a deer broadside and most of the length when fired lengthwise. Many people have condemned this load as being too hot but Lyman listed it in their handbook many years ago. I have fired many thousands of this load through at least a couple dozen revolvers with no problem and no leading. I have dropped the load to 10.5 grains for the last several years and find very little difference in performance. I no longer fire this load in small frame revolvers although I have previously fire several thousand in my Chief Specials and Colt Police Poisitives with no negative results that I could observe.
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