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    What to purchase for my first 22

    I'm new to shooting, and my main gun is a muzzleloader for hunting. But I need something to compete with my friends at the range.

    My friends have Marlin auto-loaders. I was thinking I would enjoy a bolt-action better.

    Is there such a thing as a reasonbly-priced American-made bolt action that you can install peep sights on? I would prefer that to a scope.

    Nothing against competition shooters, but I would prefer a normal knock-about rifle rather than something weird-looking.

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    How's about getting an old Mossburg or Steven's or if you were a Canadian an old Cooey!

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    Here you go, complete with peeps
    http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/
    I have a different model of MkII, with a scope. Really a nice little gun for the price.

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    Yes for a cheap tack driver look at the older Marlin Bolt guns like the Marlin80 or 81 most of them even if they did not come with peep sights are drilled for them. I have a Marlin 80 DL and a Sears branded Marlin 80 both are tack drivers. I paid 130 bucks for the Sears one at a gun show and it was mint and my 80 DL my friend sold to me for a good price which is my Silhouette gun. Besides the 80's and 81's there are the Glenfield models that are the same gun and newer models that have not really changed at all up to today. These guns can benifit from a trigger job which is easy to do Rimfire Central has all the info on it. It took me less than 5 min to put in a lighter trigger spring to give the gun a 2 pound trigger as is what my other 80 has.
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    Savage is a good buy and, if you don't mind spending a little more on the ammo, the 17HMR's come with the accu trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyMetal View Post
    Savage is a good buy and, if you don't mind spending a little more on the ammo, the 17HMR's come with the accu trigger.
    So do the MK II's a note the FV are cheaper but the comb on the stock is a tad low, I have 3 of the Savages 2 in 17HMR & a MK II in 22lr fun rifles to shoot.
    BTW the Marlins are good shooters also, for a lever action consider a Henry H001..
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    Yea the Henrys are great and accurate and I think you can get peep sights that fit on to the 3/8ths rail
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    If you wanted to move into an autoloader the Ruger 10-22s are allover the place for cheap coin. Have seen them for $150 used and aftermarket parts are all over the place if you decide to upgrade later. Fun gun that will eat just about any ammo.
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    Wrench, I like that Savage with the peeps - good one. Thanks to everyone else also - this gives me a great place to start.

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    If you don't mind used, the Remington 580 series (580 single shot, 581 box magazine, 582 tube mag) used the same basic action as their 541 target rifles.

    Winchester Models 69 and 75 are good rifles too.

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    The Remington 510,511,512, and 513 are all wonderful old rifles. Just purchased a J.C.Higgins, made by Savage or Marlin on Gun Broker for $100.00. Then 25 plus 25 shipping to a licensed dealer. Is like new and shoots great.

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    Ruger 10/22. You can get everything from stocks to voltquartzen trigger kits, to threaded barrels, you name it, its out there. They are a fun, cheap, accurate, gun.
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    We have several of the MKII-FVT savages with the peeps for our 4H shooting sports club , they work well the stock is a little light in the rear but that not a big deal.

    the kids shoot silhouettes at 40,60, 80, and 100 meters with them

    if you get it without the peeps the FV model it saves enough to get a good scope good gun either way.

    at some training i was at i ran into a guy who has a Juniors biathlon team sking and shooting they use the savage MKII-FVT

    i went with a classic myself the Mossberg 44 US-D great old WWII target rifle use around 200 with peeps , there are lots of old mossberg target rifles around i had one in my hands i think a 35b for 115 but it was missing peep parts , i later found a source for parts and wish i had the money for both guns at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arisaka99 View Post
    Ruger 10/22. You can get everything from stocks to voltquartzen trigger kits, to threaded barrels, you name it, its out there. They are a fun, cheap, accurate, gun.

    They are NOT CHEAP after you add all that stuff and stock they are not all that accurate. STOCK A Marlin 60 out of the box or any of its relatives shoot better then a 10/22 Stock. Before you tell me I am full of BS I have owned 5 10/22's over the years 4 stock ones and one Factory Target. Target one shot great but was like hauling a cement brick around. The stock ones were MEH shoot ok but nothing great. The used Marlin 60 I had would shoot rings around all 4 of them and the two Marlin 80 bolt actions I have now there is no comparison they are literally tack drivers. Not saying the 10/22's are not well made they are and they are fun and some shoot well but a lot of them do not either. I think the OP would do well with an older Marlin or Mossberg or Remington Bolt Action. All three are known for accuracy. Or a new Marlin or Savage Bolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrench View Post
    Here you go, complete with peeps
    http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/
    I have a different model of MkII, with a scope. Really a nice little gun for the price.
    I agree great rifle, I have three Savage bolt action, all with accu=trigger one 22LR and two 17HMR's mine are scoped but been thinking of the peep sight one also.
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    If I was to have just one caliber.22 rifle and I wanted a somewhat fun & fast repeater I would look into that neet little Browning lever rifle. I bought one about 5 years ago used for $235 (it has a few barks & dings in the stock). It really shoots good. I have not tried many types of ammo for accuracy but it seemed to shoot even the cheap stuff to golf ball accuracy at 25 yards. Wildcats were tough to chamber but the better Rems & Win. all shot well.
    I had a 10-22 for many years but when I bought the Browning I gave the 10-22 away. The Browning carries easily and is plenty accurate for the up close type ditch hunting I do. Even shoots them CB shorts that come in a plastic 100 shot carrier (CCI ? ) Very quiet.
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    I like the Marlin levermatic model 56. They were made back in the 50-60's maybe early 70's. Marlin's microgroove rifling is at home with the 22 rimfire and they just flat out shoot as others have attested. I shot my friends glenfield semi-auto and it would shoot one holers at 25 yards with any quality ammo. I cut my teeth on a model 56 with peep sights and would trim the heads off weeds at 25 yards easily. The levermatics with the steel receivers were known for their inherent accuracy. The stock is full size and easy to shoot with a short lever throw you could reload fast with a flick of your fingers. Just all around good gun for the money.

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    If you can find one, the recently discontinued Remington model 5 bolt action is a fine rifle with an adjustable trigger and excellent accuracy. They can be had for $200 or less and are all steel and walnut for several lifetimes of use.

    Here's a link to a 50 yard group shot with one of mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8191640...in/photostream

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHunter View Post
    Is there such a thing as a reasonbly-priced American-made bolt action that you can install peep sights on? I would prefer that to a scope.

    Nothing against competition shooters, but I would prefer a normal knock-about rifle rather than something weird-looking.
    You have gotten some good suggestions for what you asked - As always check the used rack - Ruger 77/22 comes to mind, Model 980S, Savage MkII, Kimber made a heck of a 22LR,

    some of the other guns sold by american companies are made overseas but I wouldn't rule them out.
    Wildcat 22LR Bolt Action Rifle made in Russia
    Model Five is made in Serbia

    I have friends with CZ452, one has a suppressed Biatholon and of course have to mention ANSCHUTZ

    I'd check in with good folk over at
    http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php

    I myself have found a Romanian M1969 military Training rifle and love it to death - came with 3 blade rear and hooded front sight that was accurate enough for golf balls out to 75-100 yards - I did scope it and was able to hit bolt head at 125 with some regularity with Federal Bulk ammo even.

    Now if your open to something other than a bolt gun try looking at a marlin 39 or Henry - Ruger also makes a nice lever 22

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    I have a Savage heavy bbl. mkII in .17mach2 it is a tack driver.

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