The brown Lee Alox

[Joey]

I have used it from the beginning. I cast for C&B, high power rifle, and hand gun. No problem with leading except when I shoot .38 Spl. in my .357's. Leading in the cylinders.

[LET-CA]

It's the only lube I've ever used. I have two Lyman 450's that were given to me but I have yet to set them up. Alox works.

[cherok9878]

I think the question's confusing. People who like it might be voting both ways.

I didn't vote, but yes you can beat it, with White Lightning bicycle chain lube. I've relegated the LLA to mould block lubrication duties henceforth. I've still got boolits lubed with LLA on hand, but I'm not applying it to new ones at present.

With White Lightning being aprox three times the cost of LLA, I think I will stay with the latter, Just my own misguided opinion

[versifier]

Rebliss,
That's not as easy a question to answer as you might suppose, because it changes with the temperature. (And we get quite a range of it up here.) But, it doesn't take much to thin it, maybe 10% ms by volume, if that. FWIW, I use about 1/4 the amount of LA now than I used before I started dipping, there's much less mess to clean up, and the loaded ammo isn't a lint and dirt magnet. Dipping doesn't work with short and round nosed pistol boolits because I can't get a good grip on them, but .358 SWC's and longer rifle boolits are no problem. I use an eyedropper and squirt a couple shots of ms into the bottle the LA comes in, then shake it and check it out. Doesn't need as much in summer as it does in winter, and it doesn't ever need much of a coating on the driving bands to work, either. I used to tumble lube until the lube grooves were full, and boy did that make a mess of the exposed noses. Now, I dip the boolit to the crimp groove and three drops fall off it, then I put it base down on wax paper. In winter it doesn't flow as well in the cold, so I wipe the last drop off on the edge of the container (a small cutoff prescription bottle, 1" high). Sometimes they take two days to dry in hot summer, usually one day in the dry cold of winter. Here it's been Monsoon weather lately - humid and just above freezing, so two days for last few batches. Then, after I size them and seat the gc's, I carefully scrape up the excess LA from the wax paper, now an oozy goo, with a sharpened slat of wood, cram it back into the bottle, add a little more mineral spirits, and shake well. Always add it to the bottle and then shake, ms just floats on top if you try to add it to the dipping container. If you make it too thin, just squirt more LA in and shake it up again. I never let the container of diluted LA get any more than 1/2 full. Store the LA, both diluted and regular, where it is warm, and if you have to nuke it to get it to flow better, take the whole top off first, don't just raise the spout - it clogs, then blewie!!! And it's a bitch to clean off the sides and top of the inside of the nuke, then you gotta do something about the smell of the solvent you used to clean it with, etc., etc., etc. Despite how this might sound, it is an easy and fairly neat process once you have done it.

[j. clark]

I have used liquid alox to lube 140gr. boolits for my 6.5 carcano cav. carbine with fantastic results. I have got much better accuracy with this than anything I have tried before in this little carbine. This includes jacketed.

[Little Joe]

Now thats what I like to hear.

Im going to get some of the chain lube so I can try it out first hand but if the cost is up there to high it will be a one shot deal for me.Then its back to the good old Lee brown alox.

Next time Midway Shooter's Supplies have a sale on the brown alox I will be buying a dozen or so bottles and maybe two dozen.

You just can't have enough of a good thing.

Out of here for now,
Little Joe

[Ricochet]

With White Lightning being aprox three times the cost of LLA, I think I will stay with the latter, Just my own misguided opinion

Yeah, it costs about three times as much, for about three times as much. That's a 12 oz. bottle.

[cherok9878]

I only did one web search, all results found for white lightning were for 4 oz bottles at six to eight dollars. Anyone else get a price per bottle we could compare, not trying to step on anyone's toes, just searching for info on the net.

[rebliss]

Versifier--thanks!

[Little Joe]

Now that Christmas is over i will check out the chain lube.I own it to myself to try it.

Little Joe

[versifier]

I ordered some White Lightning to try it out on little RN handgun boolits. I have a new (to me) .45 mould, Ideal 452-374 that drops great boolits and puts them out at a decent rate despite the fact that it is a single cavity - not a single sticker in 300, never once had to tap the handle bolt. I found it in its original cardboard box covered in dust on a shelf in a dark corner of a small gun shop. The owner didn't even know it was there and threw it in for free when I bought some used die sets.
Then it sat on my shelf for several months until I tried it out the other day. I was looking at the box full of them, as yet unlubed, just thinking about how I'd have to make a total mess of them tumble lubing. Then I spotted Ricochet's post, thought about 22lr's, and decided to try it out. Then there's a 150gr .358RN, a full wadcutter, and a .356 TC that I hate making a mess with. All these boolits perform very well for me with LLA, but I'm interested to see if there will be a difference, positive or negative, in their accuracy/leading. I doubt I'll bother trying it on rifle boolits right away, unless I start to get some leading, which frankly hasn't happened yet, but I will likely be trying some higher velocity experiments when I come out of hibernation in the spring and I might be worth checking out on them at that point.

[Ricochet]

Cherokwhateverthenumberswere, I posted a direct link to a 12 oz. bottle of White Lightning for sale at $11.99 at Performance Bike Shop. If you have a bicycle shop in town, it'll be for sale at Performance's price or they'll match it, I'm sure. The big online marketers are the major competition for all local hobby stores. Guns, bikes, music... My home music store closed down Saturday night.

I've noted a good bit of variation in Lee Liquid Alox prices online as well.

[cabezaverde]

Little Joe,

Did you order your 444 barrel from Midway? I just ordered their last one, and was wondering what you thought of it? Fit, finish, features?

[Little Joe]

cabezaverde I bought my barrel from Fox Ridge Outfitters,TC Custom Shop.The fit and finish is very nice and im sure your TC barrel will be about the same.I hope it shoots as good as mine.

Lube up with that nice Lee brown alox and those bullets will be happy.

Out of here for now,
Little Joe

[cabezaverde]

Little Joe

Got my 444 Encore barrel yesterday, and shot it today. Kind of wierd as it came in a Thompson Center blister pack, but it is not a catalogued caliber. Normal T/C markings.

Anyhoo, this is a shooter. I grabbed a handload I had sitting around, and put 3 shots into the same hole at 50 yards. Recoil is not bad. I am going to like this barrel.

[Little Joe]