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Thread: Traditionalists, avert your eyes, 1885 with scope!!

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    Traditionalists, avert your eyes, 1885 with scope!!

    I received my new Winchester 1885 BPCR last week. This rifle does not come with sights and until I decide what I will be using I wanted to do a bit of load development.

    I machined a one piece scope base and mounted up the oldest scope I have in my inventory. Trying to keep it close to a theme of "This Old Gun". That is a B&L Balvar 6-24 from the 1970s.

    I machined the mount out of strip of 3/8" dovetail mounting stock that you can get from Brownells. My favorite Millett Angle Lock rings were used.

    So avert your eyes if you are a "traditionalist"









    Many more pictures here:
    http://public.fotki.com/Rberta...inchester-1885-bpcr/
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    Roy,
    You are not alone in your wierdness..
    A good friend of mine has scoped his 1885 50-90 BPCR..
    He had it at the range this weekend shooting that stinking powder and my bench was down wind from him..





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    Actually it looks quite nice sitting there...Ray
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    Looks good. Beautiful rifle!
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    I like it Roy.
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    very nice

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    Don't really matter what someone else thinks as long as you are happy. That being said...... I think it looks fine and it will be great for load development.
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    beauty is in the eye of the beholder....

    and it you send it to me, I'll beholding that for you, so I can eye it up real close like!

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    Is there no company that makes a traditional looking scope with internal adjustment?
    I would be in for one if there was.
    Jack

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    Great job on the scope mounting. I put a 3X Malcolm Leatherwood on mine.

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    I wish they made the 18" Malcolm in something higher than 6X. I'd buy one in 16-24X.

    Does anyone know if anyone "pushes" these scopes to a higher magnification?
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    Littlejack,

    you mean one like the old Lyman All-American Perma Centers?

    18.5" long, tall turret knobs, 2 1/8ths inch front lens housing, 1 1/2" rear lens housing.

    35X, very fine crosshairs and itty-bitty dot. I have one sitting here in front of me as I type.

    It has looked soooooooooo fine, sitting on my Sharps, Stevens, HiWalls, Wickliffe (45-120)
    and now the Steve Earle Wesson LR actioned rifle. Loadwork only, but awfully good for that.

    I asked MVA if they could boost one of theirs, they said to get the glass maker to design and produce the first set of lenses would run about six-grand!

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    I mounted a old Redfield 3200-24X on my 1885 Traditional Hunter in 30-30 and 38-55 Win.

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    When I think about the 1885, I remember one I passed up about 20 years ago. It had a long bull barrel in .225 Winchester, and a huge old Unertl scope sitting on it. It was $300. I kick myself for not buying it, everytime I think about it.

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    I made mounts for my 1885 Creedmoor for load developement. Files a couple of $8.00 weavers untill they fit.

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    TexasMax, has an article about a scope mount on his web site for the Browning BPCR. This is one of mine with a Redfield 3200 scope 24x.
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    There is a Redfield 3200 on ebay right now..........$895!!!!!!!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Redfield-3200-Ta...item53e72f2b77
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    When I was shooting BPCR Silhouette competition, I mounted a 20 power Lyman All American for load testing. Mine is a 40/65 and I got excellent results at 500 yards (ten shot groups just over 6" with black powder loads).

    So, I find it perfectly understandable for load development. Good show and a VERY nice rifle. I consider the 1885's, as pictured, as good as it gets!

    Dale53

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    There is a crowd around that produce a long original style scope to go on these style of rifles. They are a thing of beauty, but have a seriously high dollar look about them.

    I have always fancied one of those Commemorative Rugers in 45/70 with the long scope. A few have come up over the years, but I have always had a cash flow problem when they were on sale.
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    I got the best of both worlds with mine. Good luck with yours.

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