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    Question RCBS makes dies for another co.

    I was watching a gun related tv show yesterday (I forgot the name).
    It showcased RCBS and showed how they make presses and dies. They said RCBS Makes Dies for another reloading company that uses differnt colored boxes.
    WHO COULD IT BE??
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    I've seen that before (Shooting USA) and thought "who"....
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    First, what color boxes? RCBS has dies in green and gray boxes.

    But if they are making dies for another company that shouldn't surprise anyone. The name on the tools in your toolbox may not be the company that made them, and I guarantee you that not all of the current makers of 1911s are making frames, slides, internal parts.
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    Last I heard both Ruger and S&W were making golf club heads for a variety of companies because they have the investment casting setups. I suspect this is the same kind of situation, once you invest in the major hardware to do a job, it makes sense to make as many of as many different parts as the system can to leverage your investment.
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    Ruger's metal casting company is (or was) called Pine Tree Casting. They did but no longer make golf clubs. Don't know about S&W.

    RCBS makes dies for Huntington Die Specialties.

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    There it is! I knew someone would know!! Thanks!!
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    Who makes whaqt for who?

    Is it a coincidence that RCBS and Lyman's bullet sizers use the same top punches and sizer dies for many years now? It makes one wonder how much of the other loading related equipment on the market is made by who....and where? LLS

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    most all electronic scales are made by pact.
    i get a bit of a laugh when the rcbs and lyman electronic powder dumps are compared.
    they have a couple of different features but the electronics are basically the same.
    b.t.w i use the lyman dpms it's fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geraldo View Post
    First, what color boxes? RCBS has dies in green and gray boxes.
    And brown (tan) boxes. Their Cowboy dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrick View Post
    And brown (tan) boxes. Their Cowboy dies.

    Rick
    And Black, their AR series dies as well....

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    I think that they are the ones producing Hornady Dies.
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    Have you noticed the the Hornady 50BMG press is pretty identical to the RCBS single stage AmmoMaster?

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    Hmmmmm.... all presses bolt to the bench, have a big threaded hole in the top and a handle. Must be only one maker, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stubshaft View Post
    I think that they are the ones producing Hornady Dies.
    I know at least some of the hornady dies are made in house, but then again, I know some of them are made by others too, so it may well be.

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    Like with most other products the name on the box
    or brand name is not always the name of the company that produced it. Same in the shooting sports that doesn't make dies RCBS just because they make them . What I'm trying to say is that RCBS may manufacture the die set but they manufacture it to another company's specification or dimensions nothing wrong with that .That saves money for the company having them made because they have a set cost and don't need to buy materials or machinery to manufacture their products /dies in this case .It makes RCBS able to buy larger orders of raw materials that saves them money and set up time by having larger runs on their machinery. Bottom line it saves the end user money .Most 45 1911 frames are made in the Philippines buy http://www.armscor.com.ph
    but made to different specifications for different manufactures. Same with Italian shotguns since The Beretta company in (Brescia, Italy has the only casting foundry in that ares they cast the receivers for company like Perazzi Shotguns and a dozen or more others again to their specifications .

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    Not all, but these two!


    Right down to the slot on the left for the AkroBin holder. Only difference is the front name plate on the base. RCBS is cast in, Hornady is the usual foil decal...

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    i know RCBS now uses Chinese rough castings for their presses.I wonder if Hornady is doing the same?

    those presses are twins.

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    That one makes business sense, actually. There can't be enough 50 BMG shooters to support two press makers. Heck, there are hardly enough to support one!

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    According to RCBS, their press castings are done in the U.S.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReloaderFred View Post
    According to RCBS, their press castings are done in the U.S.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred
    That's exactly what I was told by a service rep less than 4 months ago. They DID try Asian casting for a few months but found the quality as unacceptable and brought the business back to the U.S.
    I also pointedly asked about the molds and again was told they had tried overseas but were dissatisfied with the products.

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