Saw one at the Wally World for $258 with scope mounts in .308, didn't look real close but is this a new econo model of Savage to replace the Stevens 200? or just a econo model?
Saw one at the Wally World for $258 with scope mounts in .308, didn't look real close but is this a new econo model of Savage to replace the Stevens 200? or just a econo model?
Frank G.
It's one of Savage's entry level rifles.
I've never shot one but, I've heard good things about their accuracy. Other than the factory trigger maybe needing some work and not having the "Barrel Nut" setup that their other rifles have, I should make a good "Starter Rifle."
HollowPoint
Savage has renamed this gun the “Axis” due to a trademark type situation, I believe with McMillan.
I purchase the Axis in 223 this past January after reading many reviews and the rifle matched up to the reviews. It has been very accurate out of the box, the trigger pull is heavy, I have not encountered the stock flex that some have complained about but I use sand bags for rest not a heavy sled. I bought this rifle for a truck/quad gun so that if it received a scratch here or there I would not be upset but still have the accuracy for coyotes when call upon. If you are expecting a high dollar type rifle for that price it is not going to happen, but for an entry level or truck gun it will fit the bill.
I am very pleased with mine.
Phil
I am happy if it is accurate do not have the budget for expensive guns, just barely have a budget for components.
Frank G.
Freightman,
I understand the budget issue as I had to sell some items to get the $$ for the Axis, I purchased. The one that I got was in camo with the factory mounted scope (my wife calls it the "Forest Fairy Rifle"). What I fail to understand is the individuals that purchase the model complain about the trigger and then go out and spend another 150.00 for a lighter trigger at that point you defeat the purpose of the inexpensive rifle.
My rant
Phil
I am use to military triggers so I doubt that it is as bad as a Moisin Nagant.
Last edited by Freightman; 04-19-2011 at 03:25 PM.
Frank G.
"What I fail to understand is the individuals that purchase the model complain about the trigger and then go out and spend another 150.00 for a lighter trigger at that point you defeat the purpose of the inexpensive rifle.
My rant
Phil"
LOL
Phil: that is rather illogical but some folks actually do just that.
If you visit the Savage forums you can read about financially strained Savage owners scraping the money together to buy an inexpensive Savage model rifle, then they give in to the temptations of buying alot of extra "Bells-N-Whistles" to put on their new budget-rifles.
It's not like I'm poking fun at folks. I've done the same thing myself on occasion. My only consolation was that the add-ons I added on actually helped increase the performance of the rifle in question.
On the other hand, it took a while before I could actually take it out and shoot it. I'd spent all the alloted money I had set aside for this rifle and I just couldn't afford take it out till I scraped up some more money.
HollowPoint
I probably should not have thrown stones in a glass house, if I think back to Pre-wife, Pre-kids, Pre-kids in College, I spent money on guns that my father shook his head at but I justified it then.
Freightman please let us know your decision, and yes the trigger does remind me of my Krag.
Phil
I love my Savage Edge in 223. I've never heard of this Axis thing, but then again I wouldnt pay too much attention.
I got mine in 223. i love it. i threw a Tasco mildot 6-24x scope on it. Trigger is heavy, but I am used to the Enfields and Mosins as well, so nice in comparison. Off a bench at 100m and using the bipod and a back sand bag my best group was under .50" on the outside with Hornady 50gr Vmax and Benchmark powder. Cant ask for much more out of a rifle that cost me $400 delivered (Canada prices, they gouge the living **** out of us up here).
My buddy has one in 30-06. Shoots pretty good, not as well as my 223, but not bad, under 1.5" at 100m. Still trying to find the right load for it I guess.
Matt
Matt
I also have an edge in 223. I have a Barski 6x24x50 scope on it. It shoots a little under an inch group rested with my handloads. My only complaint is the magizine.
If you're looking at a 308Win caliber. The Marlin XS7 has a 1-12" twist barrel as opposed to Savage 1-10" twist. All other variables equal the slower 12 twist is better for launching cast boolits.
For a couple hundred dollars more($555.). A Tikka T3 in either 308 or 30-06 has a 1-11" twist.
As mentioned in one of the first few posts the Edge and the Axis are the same animal, just a name change.
Out here, the Axis sells for about $AU540 and with a scope about $AU590. Triggers cost $AU200. Sort of takes the 'edge' off the bargain (pun intended, lol).
My local gunshop doesn't carry them, but will order them in. He specialises, in Howas, Tikkas, Sakos and Remingtons.
Apart from a graunchy trigger, I haven't heard one single bad report about them.
There is a Camo Marlin 308 in the store. They have a better trigger apparently. The owner of the store got a batch of the Marlins in and they alll sold real quick. Strangely enough, the last one, the 308 has just sat there for about a year now. It has tempted me many times as I have several Marlin lever actions and like the brand.
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I have an Edge in 223 and pretty reliably print .75" at 100 yards rested or prone. I don't know how friendly the throat is for cast though. If I were to buy anything bigger than 22 caliber I would but an X7 or Mossy100ATR. They have adjustable triggers and real recoil lugs, the two things that bother me about my Edge.
It requires less mental effort to condemn than to think.
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Sniper to Psycholigist; 'Recoil Ma'am.'
From my Irish Ancestors: "You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was."
Tikka has those ( stock mounted ) recoil lugs and they work just fine. An interesting note as we speculate on these relatively inexpensive rifles is, the premiere match .22 rimfire, the Anschultz match 54 has the ( stock mounted ) recoil lug, and has had that system for at least 30 years or so... that's when I got my first one.
Wayne
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Savage must be clearing out the Stevens rifle to make way for the Axis (Edge). They are on special here for $AU399, which is a bit cheaper than most rimfires! They only have them in 22/250 (I have 2x 22/250s), 25/06 (don't have on eof these, they are the perfect rifle for Australia, but I don't want to start up another calibre, etc) the final choice is 270 and I have 2x of these also.
I am tempted to try one of these cheapies just to satisfy my curiosity.
Is the trigger adjustable on these Stevens 200s? Apparently not, I just Googled it.
That 308 Marlin would be a better cast boolit gun I'm thinking.
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Psycholigist to Sniper; 'What did you feel when you shot the felon Sargeant?'
Sniper to Psycholigist; 'Recoil Ma'am.'
From my Irish Ancestors: "You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was."
Is the trigger adjustable on these Stevens 200s? Apparently not, I just Googled it.
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I bought a Stevens 200 last summer. It came as a package deal with 3-9 scope and camo stock. The trigger is adjustable for weight of pull. Cabela's had 3 of them in .308. I picked the one with the best trigger and then lightened the pull weight a little by turning the screw provided. It's no Accu Trigger but it is very satisfactory now.
For $350 I am very happy with it.
I bought a used Stevens 200 .243 for use as a donor action and while the trigger did have some adjustment for weight it was not what I would call useful. Making it light made it dangerous so I replaced it with a sharpshooter along with just about everything else except the action but that was the plan and I got it cheap. It is now a .250 Savage with a Bell & Carlson stock and nice 3lb trigger and am happy with the results. The Axis does look very interesting and reports say while it does not have the accu-trigger is was better than the old ones. I've ordered the stainless one in .308 (it's on sale) and am looking giving it a spin.
I reckon if the Edge/Axis rifles were on sale at the local gunshop, I would have weakened and bought one to satisfy my curiosity by now. I like the Marlins, but they are about $80-$90 cheaper then the Remington 700SPS rifles which make the Remington a no brainer choice.
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