success in reloading a .22 long rifle for survival

[Mk42gunner]

Have you found anything you can do with the strike on box matches? That's about all I can find anywhere.

Mk42gunner, you're about the only one on this board that would know where I am.

I'm just outside Hume.

jim

Hi Neighbor,

The Family Center in Butler has strike anywhere matches, (new ones). I think they're about a dollar a box.

Robert

[wills]

Have you found anything you can do with the strike on box matches? That's about all I can find anywhere.

Mk42gunner, you're about the only one on this board that would know where I am.

I'm just outside Hume.

jim

HEB has the good old fashioned Diamond strike anywhere matches so we know they are not extinct.

[-06]

Your local hardware store can order you some if you cannot find any online. I know we all know the dangers of strike anywhere matches but they are nothing to play with. I had some in my pocket and got a bump to them. I got a big hole in my shirt pocket---front and back. Rats chewing on them have set them off. Keep them in vermin proof containers.

[jim147]

Hi Neighbor,

The Family Center in Butler has strike anywhere matches, (new ones). I think they're about a dollar a box.

Robert

Picking up a couple bags of feed tomorrow. I'll look around for the matches.

Thanks.

jim

[wills]

How have we managed to survive all these incredible perils?

[bearcove]

Dang and I thought I'd just keep an extra brick on hand.

[jh45gun]

Yea I agree with the extra brick I think a lot of folks think a 22 LR is handy to have since ammo even at todays inflated prices is relatively cheap and since they are small you can store a lot with out taking a lot of room.

[a.squibload]

Oh, THAT kind of brick.

I was gonna ask what kind of trajectory you're gettin' with a brick...

[nanuk]

Well, I tried it and it worked! I ground up some match heads into a red powder,......

How did you do that without it going "Pow"??

[leadman]

Seems to me there was quite a thread on reusing boxer primers a year or so ago, maybe longer.

Could just buy a flintlock to keep around.

[perotter]

How did you do that without it going "Pow"??

Here is a link to a video by forum Delmar the shows how he did it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7nphPRG6JA

[perotter]

Seems to me there was quite a thread on reusing boxer primers a year or so ago, maybe longer.

Could just buy a flintlock to keep around.

It is much less time consuming to make primer mix than to make a flint. Also, the raw material for making primer mix is much more widely distributed.

[NoDakJak]

I have in front of me a copy of "American Guerilla In The Philippines". The book was written by Ira Wolfert in 1945 and covers the experiences of Lt. David Richardson. Richardson was the executive officer of PT-34 which was part of the unit that rescued General Macarthur from the Japanese. Richardson escaped capture from the Japanese and helped form the Philippine Guerillas into a national wide cohesive force. On pages 94/96 of my copy he describes making ammo for th service weapons. He stated that for priming compound they used sulphur mixed with coconut shell carbon and they would fire 80 to 90 % of the time. Powder was from dismantled japanese maritime mine. This powder was too viooolent for use as a propellant so was diluted with pulverized wood fibers. He stated that five rifles were blown up trying to discover the proper formula. Bullets were made by fiing solid brass curtain rods to fit the bores. He states that bullet production never rose above 160 a day.
All this was very hazardous and tedious but worked until they were able to get better weapons. At that time our troops were armed with the 1903 but if I remember correctly the Philippino Scouts carried the 1917 Enfield.
Somewhere I have an old copy of Handloader magazine that describes the experiences of some people that were cut off behind Japanese lines in China. Their weapons were shotguns. Primers were made by removing the anvil and using a punch to remove the indentation. Match heads were used for compound and powder was made from old movie film. Shot was made by hammering lead into flat sheets and then cutting it into small pieces. It sounds crude but kept them eating thooughout the war.
My suggestion is to lay in a large supply of reloading components while you still can. Neil

[bhn22]

Huh, interesting. Ever try rebuilding a Boxer primer that same way? Wonder if it would work?

We had a thread on this a couple of years ago. A couple of enterprising men did videos on remanufacturing primers. Here's one to get you started.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7nphPRG6JA

[PatMarlin]

I don't see how you could put that book down NoDakJak. Wow.

[deltaenterprizes]

I have been disassembling 22 LR ammo that went through Katrina and the powder looks like Bullseye in some and 231 in others.

[shaune509]

Speaking of Richardson, I have one of the 'slam-fire' 12ga shotguns that he made under 'Richardson Industries' after the war, paterned after the jungle shotgun he saw in the war. It is a crude simple design that could get you some game for food but the slamfire action has no control of aim and is slow to reload. Never found much info on the company or the guns production, the photo I did find on the net had some differances from my samply that I got new in the box 2 years back.
shaune509

[John Boy]

I would like to know what powders and in what quantity can be substituted for the .22 powder without blowing something up.

4.0gr of FFFFg or Swiss Null-B black powder - averages ~ 1050 fps with a 40gr bullet

[nicholst55]

Google 'anarchist cookbook.' IIRC, there are some recipes in there for primer mixtures. I'd include a link, but my .mil LAN won't let me access the material.

[nanuk]

I have been disassembling 22 LR ammo that went through Katrina and the powder looks like Bullseye in some and 231 in others.

Heh... when I disassemble 22LR ammo, it goes "BANG"

no chance for me to see the powder, other than a little puff of smoke