success in reloading a .22 long rifle for survival

[superior]

Well, I tried it and it worked! I ground up some match heads into a red powder, and then liquified it with water. I then poured the mixture into a spent .22 case ( just enough to cover the bottom). After letting it dry overnight, I charged the case with powder from another .22 case and stuck a #4 buck pellet in the case mouth.
I loaded it into my Remington Apache 77 ( a late 80's run of a nylon 66 made exclusively for Walmart) and POW!! It shot through a phone book at 15 yards with "minute of rodent" accuracy. I can't say that it was a practical thing to do, but it's good to know that just in case, it could be done. I would like to know what powders and in what quantity can be substituted for the .22 powder without blowing something up. I wonder also if enough match head compound would suffice in lieu of powder.

[Bret4207]

Huh, interesting. Ever try rebuilding a Boxer primer that same way? Wonder if it would work?

[Poygan]

Bret,
Yes I have and yes it did work. I used the tip only of a strike anywhere match.

[Shooter6br]

Interesting. Sounds like useful if stuck in the outback and could not get 22 RF ammo. Nothing wrong with it. I do things mainly cause i can. As times change may be a useful piece of info....

[Freightman]

I loaded some boxer primers with caps and found that it works but is far to sensitive as some went off just re installing the anvil in the primer.

[troy_mclure]

noe is running a 37gr .22 group buy. pick yourself up one. lol

[cavalrymedic]

Well, I think I'll file this into my apocolypse/zombie plan. My son does stuff like this when I'm not watching. Hasn't lost any fingers, yet.

[Mk42gunner]

I have read of people doing this. One thing, clean your gun, somewhere in the back of my mind corrosive priming is trying to be heard. A little bit of water sounds like cheap insurance.

Robert

[PatMarlin]

Cool.

If the water mixed with and solidified it, why even use an anvil? I wonder if you flattened the firing pin ding out, and reused it without an anvil if it would work?

[jim147]

Have you found anything you can do with the strike on box matches? That's about all I can find anywhere.

Mk42gunner, you're about the only one on this board that would know where I am.

I'm just outside Hume.

jim

[zuke]

Anyone try this in a hollow point bullet yet?

[perotter]

Cool.

If the water mixed with and solidified it, why even use an anvil? I wonder if you flattened the firing pin ding out, and reused it without an anvil if it would work?

I never thought to try that. Anvils are a pain in the rear.

I'll try loading one that way today with a non corrosive mix I've been making that is a little more sensitive than most. If that doesn't work, I'll add a frictionizer. There are a couple of other things that I could try if these 2 don't work.

It will be a few days before they can be tried out in a rifle.

[perotter]

Have you found anything you can do with the strike on box matches? That's about all I can find anywhere.


jim

About the only thing is to mix some of the material from the striker strip in with the match head material. IMO, it is easier to make the primer mix up from scratch then to use tmatch heads.

[perotter]

Non corrosive primer mixes for rim fire & berdan primer easier to make than the ones for boxer primers. This statement is based on what is easy to buy & DIY without much equipment. Also, it is base on doing it with current commercial type of processes. There are ways that a DIYer could do it with boxers that would be cost prohibitive for a company that has the bottom line to watch.

Good corrosive primer mixes for all types are very simple & cheap to make.

FWIW, I'm thinking of putting a thread on this site(if there is any interest in it) about DIY primer mixes and the results of testing them. I work full time & have kids to take care of, so I can't do it all in a few weeks. It would be over the course of the rest of the year.

[jh45gun]

Seems like a bother two me a 1000 rounds of 22 ammo is pretty easy to pack and would last a long time if used right. If your worried about running low on ammo get a bow or crossbow that you can make your own arrows easier than trying to load 22 ammo.

[PatMarlin]

FWIW, I'm thinking of putting a thread on this site(if there is any interest in it) about DIY primer mixes and the results of testing them. I work full time & have kids to take care of, so I can't do it all in a few weeks. It would be over the course of the rest of the year.

By all means put...

Put a link here for reference as well... YA!

[HollowPoint]

When I used to shoot in archery tournaments I remember a buddy of mine relating a story of a guy he new that packed the tip of his arrow with match heads and a cap. (toy pistol cap)

When his arrow hit the back stop, it ignited the match heads causing the arrow to rocket back in his direction. I didn't get any more details than that but, I thought it was pretty funny in a Jack-Ass sort of way.

On the other hand, reloading 22 RF seems like it may be something worthwhile for someone.

Just when I think I've read a little about just about everything in the reloading genre, something else like this comes up.

Keep up the good work gentlemen.

HollowPoint

[perotter]

FWIW, some where here I have a book that says back when shooting galleries were big(think Coney Island) some of them reloaded their 22 RF. They kind of set up an assembly line to do it.

What I'd like to see some one do is dehead a 22 RF - the swaging section. Then make header to re-head the case. Then there would be little or no "bad" spot on the case.

[Lonegun1894]

I can't tell y'all what kind or how much powder, and have not tried reloading .22 LR. however, I have used match heads instead of powder in a .38 Spl, and it worked fairly well. I did not have a chronograph to check velocity, but my usual bullet hit 3 inches high at 25 yds, making me believe it must be going slightly slower than my loads using Unique. The group of 10 shots was about 4 inches using a Taurus snubbie, so not great, but serviceable. Hope that helps someone with the 22s.

[fatboy]

perotter,
i would be very interested in a thread about primer mixs