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Thread: Paco Kelly tool for 22 mag?

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    Boolit Master
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    Paco Kelly tool for 22 mag?

    In light of my post about a new or rebuild 22 mag has anyone tried the Paco Kelly 22 tool on 22 mag ammo? I have about deceided to do some smoothing on the Marlin trigger and found a Mossburg Chuckster that I have traded for. I'll do some stock work and bed them and smooth the triggers best I can. Between the 2 I should get a shooter. But wondering about swaging some 22 mags with the Paco tool? Thanks, 10
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    I have his dies and my T-Bolt. I can give it a try, but not this weekend. Will be in Lynchburg for the eldest's birthday. I'm guessing the only advantage would be with the lead boolits. I have .221, .222, .223. and .224 dies. Any idea what size is ideal for the Mag?
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    I am not positive, but I really don't think it would work. The 22 long rifle uses a rebated base bullet where as the mag uses a standard type case. That's why you can't shoot a 22 long rifle in a 22 mag chamber. I could be wrong, but I don't see how it would work.
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    B Call is correct..Wont work. 22LR has a heeled bullet keeping it from being pushed further in the case when forming, unlike the 22 Mag.

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    Boolit Master
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    At one time you could order primed unfired .22 Magnum cases to build your own loads using standard bullets intended for centerfire chamberings. These could be trimmed to length for assembling the obsolete Winchester .22 cartridge intended for their early model autoloading rifle.
    First I heard of these cases was an article on the modified .22 PPK used by the CIA in the 60's. It used a shortened .22 Mag case loaded with specialized heavy bullets at subsonic velocity to allow a very effective silencer and increased lethality.

    I don't think using a kinetic puller would work well, it might compromise the priming compound in the rim. If primed cases are still available that opens up many possibilities for tayloring loads to the specific intended purpose and achieving the best accuracy for individual firearms in this chambering.

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    PACO ATS System

    The PACO tool you mention for .22 LR will not work on the .22 MRF because the .22 MRF bullets are lubed inside the case. The .22 RF are lubed on the outside and as listed above. PACO sells another tool called the ATS system that will make a flat nose bullet for .22 LR and .22 MRF bullets for improved expansion. I have used it on .22 WRF Winchester bullets. It makes a cleaner cut on paper targets (wad cutter) and hopefully on small game. I don't believe it will improve accuracy.

    Last edited by ohiochuck; 04-17-2011 at 11:24 AM.

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    Boolit Master

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Smith View Post
    I have his dies and my T-Bolt. I can give it a try, but not this weekend. Will be in Lynchburg for the eldest's birthday. I'm guessing the only advantage would be with the lead boolits. I have .221, .222, .223. and .224 dies. Any idea what size is ideal for the Mag?

    Just for your info 22 mag is .224. Though as the other guys said with the bullet not being heeled it would push inside the case probably.

    10 Ga The 22 mag kills big for its size I doubt you need to do any bullet altering.
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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
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