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    Talking 10B101 Load Data Collection Poin

    Please give your Lot number when posting load information.

    *****REGARDING THE METERING OF THIS POWDER*************
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=98677
    (wiljen,wiljen,wiljen,,,)

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    Thread concerning Powder volume weight and variation: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=134799

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    Thread on Paper Patching Pistol Calibers in Single Shot Rifles with 10B101:http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ghlight=10b101

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    .30 Carbine Blackhawk

    9.0 gr under a 311359 in a 30 carbine blackhawk. No signs of excess pressure. Cleanest burn I have found so far with this powder.-redneckdan
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    .38 Special

    Mixed cases
    158 grn SWC Hornady Swaged boolit
    WSP's to light 6.5 grns of 10B100
    Liked it so much I loaded 300 of these today. Raining hard here, so I just got to shoot some pinecones in the yard....but at 7 yards both my Model 10 and 49 made pinecones jump. No pressure signs, cases fell out of the M 10, needed a bit of a push from the 49.
    Fired 15 out of the 49 and 12 out of my M 10.Recoil felt a bit lighter than my factory Rem "FBI" loads I carry.-sherrifoconee

    10.5 g 10B101 in 38 special once-fired Federal cases in the 1894 CB with good results, no pressure signs. This is using 358429 at .359. Interestingly, I tried some SR magnum primers and the results were not nearly as good as surplus SR carbine primers. This powder does not seem to like magnum primers in my testing. -frugal
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    .357 Magnum

    9.3 10B101 and the 358429 shot pretty well offhand at 50 today.Best I have ever seen out of that 6" mod 66 S&W.-TCLouis

    "Ruger Blackhawk flat top .357. using 6.4 grains approximately as measured by a Lee scoop, they vary +/_ about 3ths grain. .38 Special cases. The loads were dipped with a .7cc Lee scoop. The boolits were the Lee 158 gr. SWC TL, lubed with Rooster Jacket tumble lube liquid. They were capped with WSP primers and boolits seated and crimped in the crimp groove giving an OAL of 1.445 inches."-RayinNH

    "10B101 in a Marlin 357 Mag with 158 grain lead bullet.......
    6 grains ...weak barely on paper, much unburned powder in bore .9.3 grains... still shot low, 50% reduction in powder residue in bore. 12 grains... shoots to the same height of impact as AA#9 at 11.5 grains, but poor group, 90% of powder residue is gone. I shot up to 13 grains, which is about all will fit in the case and seat a bullet. No signs of excessive pressure in my rifle."- jmh54738

    "3 screw RBH .357 4 5/8" barrel. 150 TLSWC that's really 158 gr. Over 9.5 gr. 10B101 5 shots averaged about 1050 fps. Used a dipper, charges varied by up to .5 gr. due to the weird nature of this powder. Extreme spread was about 100 fps!
    old Lee design 140 SWC, also a plain base, same charge, with very similar results. It was plenty clean enough burning wise, and the cases weren't sooted at all. I've poured it thru a funnel with a easy 3/8" hole and it bridged, stopped flowing."-dualsport

    "Ruger 77/357-NOE 360-180 WFN. 8.5 gr. Wolf primers. 38 wad cutters over 3.5 grains of 231 it will cut cat tail stalks at 50 yards every shot. . 100 yard groups with the 360180 boolit and 10B101 powder are giving me consistent 1"-1.25" groups."-altheating

    ".357 Marlin with 10B101: Same lot as in above post using Ruger Blackhawk .357; Lee 358-158 RF, tumble lubed in LLA mix, loaded as cast, 10.2 gr. 10B101 and Tula SP primer gave 4" groups at 75 yds. My Marlin 1894c is wearing a 2.5X shotgun scope."-dualsport

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=149250
    Rossi 92 357mag: lot 91a-009 358156 coal 1.63. 12.0 12.3 12.6gr. RP cases WSP. Seems accurate. -TCLouis
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    357 Herrett

    Worked up to 15.0gr with 180gr 200gr and 210gr bullets. No signs of excessive pressure by expansion ring measurements. Accuracy is pretty good.-redneckdan
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    .41 Magnum

    WW cases WLP 215 grn SWC boolit
    Redhawk...11.5 sooted the outer 1/4 of the cases, accuracy was so so against my steel target
    13grns all bullets struck steel at same place, not much unburned powder, no soot on cases

    Model 58... 11.5 no soot, some unburned powder, POI was right on with fixed sights, feels just a
    bit milder than "police loads"....I like this load in my 58
    13 grns...felt like police load, similar accuracy....not as much unburned powder.
    All ejected empties fine, just fell out of the revolvers, primers look good...
    My Uniflo measure seems to like this stuff.(using the rifle rotor)..(weights) were very consistent-sheriffoconee
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    .44 Special

    "Used 12.5gr of 10B101 to propel a 429421 (round grease groove). This was in a .44 special with standard primers."-(My load of 12.5 gr under a 429421 was NOT a compressed load.)-redneckdan

    "44 special flat top. With 8.5 gr and a 250gr keith I could see the bullets fly and impact the target. I am guessing the burn rate is somewhere between blue dot and 2400."-redneckdan

    " 429215, plainbased, over 1.3cc 10B101"-Nobade

    "10B101. Lot 91A-009
    250gr SWC Miha
    S&W 24-3. Three inch barrel

    11grs--788fps
    12grs--860fps
    13grs--950fps
    14grs--986fps

    Stopped at 14grs. Plenty fast and diminished gain between 13 and 14grs."
    Aaron

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    .44 Magnum

    Ruger SRH 9.5" barrel
    Powder 10B110 Lot # 91A-009 429421 seated to crimp groove (medium crimp)
    MagTech LP
    15.5 gr. 1260 fps ES 61 fps (81.29 fps/gr.) 16.5 gr. 1364 fps ES 56 fps (82.66 fps/gr.)
    This may be getting toward the upper end for loading this powder"-TCLouis

    Used Herco data in .44 magnum. Loads worked fine and powder seemed to work very well in a 250 gr lswc at approx 950 - 1000 fps load-curiousgeorge
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    .45 ACP

    "Springfield Armory government model, Lee 220gr TLRN, mixed cases, Wolf LPP. Loaded 5 cases each of 8, 9, and 10Gr. 8gr very pleasant.-Hamish
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    .45 colt

    "Seems to be dead ringer for 2400 in 45 Colt"-
    " I started at 8.0 grs of 10B101 in half grain increments stopping at 9.5 grs. Basically, 8.0 grs would not break 500 fps and 9.5 grs made it to 643 fps." " it is not at all in the Herco speed range"
    "11 grs ave 715 fps 12 grs ave 780 fps 12.5 grs ave 815 fps 13 grs ave 845
    Blue Dot control 12.5 grs ave 891 fps. Clearly slower than Blue Dot." - Aaron

    (PRESSURE SPIKE) with my 500 JRH as well. 300 gr Speer went from 1200 to 2100 fps going from 24 to 25 grs, some compression. Verfied with a second round. Fired several 45 Colt factory rounds and 22 LR, all read normal velocities."-Aaron


    "a couple loads today with this powder.The loads were shot through a Ruger Blackhawk .45 Colt with a 5.5" barrel. I didn't use the chronograph. I also took a box of Red Dot loads as a sort of control. The boolit was a Lyman 454190 PB RNFP sized at .452.
    Load #1 was 11 grains of 10B101, it shot well and felt recoil was on par with the 6.2 Grains of Red Dot loads. Both loads had sooting on the upper third of the casing.
    Load #2 was 13 grains of 10B101, it too shot well and was much more authoritative. Sooting was almost nonexistent. I didn't spend a lot of time aiming, having shot the fifty rounds of 10B101 in fifteen minutes, but they produced a group of about 3.5" at fifty feet. I didn't have the chrony, but my velocities seemed to be higher than AAron's at the same charge weights"-RayinNH

    "I loaded 12.0 grs behind a 200gr hardcast plain base RF boolit in a Ruger Bisley 45 Colt. I had loaded some with a light roll crimp and some with a very heavy roll crimp. I ran a few over the Chrony and results were as follows.
    Light crimp - 802 fps average Heavy crimp - 897 fps average
    The heavy crimp loads burned cleaner and showed less shot to shot deviation as well as the big increase in velocity. These velocities were from a 7 1/2" barrel. The primers (Winchester Large Pistol) showed no pressure signs at all and extraction of the fired cases was very easy."-daved63
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    .480 Ruger

    This is out of my custom short-barreled Ruger flat top. Miha 476-640.

    16 grs--965fps
    17 grs--1005fps
    18 grs--1025fps

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    .22 Hornet

    " 5, 5.5 6, 6.5, 7grains with the 254-415 which weighs in at 55 grains in WW without GC and lube. 5.5 was the best group, 7 sprayed them. no leading, no pressure on the primer"-DIRT Farmer

    Ruger Model 77
    (Lot 91A-009) B
    BRP 226-47 Boolit, as cast 45 gr WW,LLA lube.
    4.5 gr = 1577 FPS 5.0 gr = 1672 FPS 5.5 gr = 1822 FPS 6.0 gr = 1993 FPS
    5.5 gr. most accurate. None showed pressure signs.
    The best way to dispense this stuff is with a electronic dispenser/scale (RCBS Chargermaster 1500)
    Dumping from my RCBS Uniflow measure or the Lyman 55, every charge was off by more than 1/2 to 3/4 grain. I attempted to use the Lyman powder pal pan/funnel. Forget it! More of the powder sticks to the sides of the pan/funnel than drops in the case. Static cling! The clear MTM funnels were almost as bad. I tried drier sheets to eliminate the static cling but with negative results. I ended up using the pan from my RCBS 5-0-5 scale and a RCBS old style soft plastic funnel.
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    221 Fireball 10B101 DATA

    60 gr NOE 225-55 FN Cast Boolit with gas check
    10 gr = 2397 fps
    11 gr = 2572 fps
    12 gr = 2724 fps

    47 gr BRP 226-47 Cast Boolit with gas check
    10 gr = 2572 fps
    11 gr = 2791 fps
    12 gr = 2985 fps

    Remington Model 700 Classic
    -altheating

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    22-250

    60 gr Cast NOE 22-055 FN GC Boolit - Checked/Sized .225 lubed with speed green.

    14gr 2399 FPS ES=46
    15gr 2525 FPS ES=10
    16gr 2588 FPS ES=13
    17gr 2687 FPS ES=27
    18gr 2803 FPS ES=43

    15gr shoots very well from my Ruger M77. May mess with bullet seating depth a bit. No pressure even with 18gr. Like with the 22 Hornet once the ES goes above 15 FPS the accuracy really goes away. -altheating
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    6x45 AR

    81gr Eagan MX2-243
    lot #91A009 of 10B101, all with CCI No. 41 primers
    9.2gr, 1861fps, ES34, SD9. About a 1.25 group with a couple low fliers.
    8.7gr, 1814fps, ES26, SD9. About a 1.00 group with a couple fliers.
    8.2gr, 1714fps, ES38, SD10.9.
    As a comparison, 8.1gr of Blue Dot gave 1765fps, ES22, SD5-madsenshooter
    Eagan 81gr: 7.6grs 10B101, Avg 1620fps, ES24, SD7
    Lyman245498: 8.4gr 10B101, Avg 1658fps, ES27, SD8

    "6x45AR. Kicker is 5gr of 10B101, plus enough 860 to fill the case enough that I get compression when I seat the bullet. I got 2550fps with reasonable accuracy and great ballistic uniformity. Start at 2gr with the kicker, it has more effect on velocity than varying the main charge"

    Thread on accuracy in the 6X45AR using 10B101 Kicker: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ghlight=10b101

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    7-08

    CVA Hunter 7-08
    18" barrel
    10B101 Lot 91A-009 (all weighed charges) WLR
    135 gr. RNFP GC GB boolit

    10.5 1451 fps
    11.0 1481 fps ES 10
    11.5 1525 fps ES 14
    12.0 1573 fps ES 14

    11.0 seems to be most accurate.-TCLouis

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    7x57

    "The 7x57 seems to like 10.5 with the Lee 285 135"-DIRT Farmer
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    .30 Badger

    30 Badger rifle, 22 inch barrel. 8.0gr. 10B101 under the Lee 155 Ed Harris boolit. 1400 fps, very accurate. Same thing, but 8.0gr. 10B101 plus .5cc WC857 under the RCBS 30-150-CM plain base cowboy boolit. 1700 fps, outstanding accuracy. - Nobade

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    30-40 Krag

    "Seems to be around the burn rate of Blue Dot. Using the 169gr Eagan MX3-30AR, I worked up to 21gr of 10B101, and that gave me the same speed I've been averaging with 20gr of Blue Dot. I'd guess pressure was over 35,000psi as the case necks sealed well. Looking at empty cases from the 2 loads side by side, I'd say the Blue Dot load produced slightly more pressure. Accuracy was also on par with Blue Dot, which is to say pretty good. Load was 21gr 10B101, 169gr boolit, Rem 9 1/2M primer. Average for the load was 2010fps and extreme spread was less than 30fps. 16gr of 10B101 with a 194gr bullet produced 1577fps. 18gr with a 194gr bullet produced 1812fps."-madsenshooter

    closer look at some previously unfired cases I'd used with the 10B101. 20 and 21grs gave that sorta annealed look to the neck, so I'd say it's double base.-madsenshooter.

    "18.1 grains of 10B101 with 311299 in my 1898 Krag giving 1.5 inch groups from the bench at 110 yards"-frugal
    "starting load of 20gr. of 10b101 under a 190gr 311644 paper patched to 311"

    Based on 2400 data I tried 24gr 10B101, lot #91-009, under some Hornady 150gr FMJBT in my Krag. The old Hercules handbook says 2190fps @34000psi. The condition of the primers says back off a bit, especially in the Krag.-madsenshooter

    NOE 314175 (Saeco 315) Good accuracy, guessing approx. 1750. Lot 91a-009

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    .30 Carbine

    "10 grains with 311410 bullet Used the top two slides on a Lyman #55 powder measure open to #6 (front graduations) When charging a block of cases, the powder level would be anywhere from 1/8" to 5/16" below the case mouth. I weighed several of both the high level and low level charges. Regardless of the height in the case, they all weighed within a few tenths of 10 grain, and they all functioned the m1 carbine, without leading and a good group, and no powder residue. No velocity readings as the snow is up to my posterior. So far, for 357, 44 mag, and 30 carbine, I could just dip a case full, shake out 1/4" and seat the bullet. 100% load density (without compression). -jmh54738

    Marlin 62 30 Carbine, 7.0gr. is a good load for 115gr. bullets. Even without gas checks it works well. 10.0gr. was way too hot, -Nobade
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    7.62x39 (SKS)

    "13GR CYCLED MY SKS , AND LAYED THE BRASS AT MY FEET, (could almost catch them in mid air if you wanted too) real close to 2400. Lee CLT312-160-2R WHEEL WEIGHT ,NO GAS CHECK, NO BARREL LEADING".-STIHLHUNTER
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    30-30 Winchester

    "94 Win. 30-30 10.5 gave a plesant load with the Lyman 311-291 170 grn"-DIRTfarmer

    "14.0 grains of 10B101 (Lot#91A-009) pushing a TLC311-165-RF with hornady gas check sized to .309" lubed with lee alox, cast with WW alloy. I fired this out of a good condition win 1894 levergun. I used mixed head stamped brass and cci large rifle primers"-samcolt87
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    30 Herrett `14" Contender

    "30 Herrett `14" Contender 50 Yards
    RCBS 150 FP
    Powder: 10B110 Lot # 91A-009 Primer:WLP
    Really chilly(for winter conditions this year) snowy conditions.

    9.0 3 in one enlarged hole pulled one off about an inch
    10.0 4 in about 1.5-2"
    10.5 4 in about 1.5 - 2 inches

    TC Louis

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    .303 Lee/Enfield

    No1mk3 iron sights Lee 90385; .311,Hornady GC,Lee FCD
    12 gr. 10b101 1470-1520fps (note:boolit too small for bore) very pleasant to shoot
    Lee90385 .314
    13gr- **shows promise my rifle, ymmv**
    14gr-1756-1831fps; avg. 1784.6
    15gr-1841-1889fps; avg. 1868
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    .308
    "I used 13.0 of this in my Ishapore 2A1 .308 with a modern bond plain base 150 grainer and it is giving almost MOA at 50 yards"-frugal
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    30-06

    "1917 Remington. 15.5 under the Lyman 314-299"-DIRT Farmer

    16gr with the 165RD boolit-TC Louis (see post 34)
    Ranch Dog 165gr. 1.6cc Lee dipper, no filler, approx. 1650 fps-Nobade

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    7.62x54R
    M91/30 2x scout scope
    Lee 90385; sized .311,Hornady GC,Lee FCD
    15.5gr. 10b101 2 1/4" group at 50 yards.
    Chrono'd:,1755-1812
    15.6gr. Chrono: Low of 1865, High of 1900 Cartridge tipped up before loading
    16.1gr. Chrono: Low of 1895 High of 1949 Tipped before chambering

    Lee 90385 155 SKS boolit; sized .314
    10gr. 1404-1449
    11gr. 1525-1565
    12gr. 1633
    13gr. 1682-1716
    14gr. 1740-1797
    15gr. 1865-1880
    *13gr. 1.5@50yds, most accurate so far, ymmv.
    Lee 8mm Maximum boolit, sized .314 JPW/LLA HGC
    12.5 gr. 1423-1455fps.-avg. 1438
    -Hamish
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    7.7X58 Type 99 Arisaka
    Winchester reformed 06 brass
    CCI LR
    Ranch Dog 165 sized to 0.310"
    50:50 lube
    2.975" OAL
    16.0 grains 10B101
    TCLouis
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    7.92x57
    98k Mauser
    NNY Brass, CCI LRP, Hornady GC
    Lee 175gr. RN, 18gr. 10b101, COL 2.893, 10 shots, 1 1/4 group at 40 yards.

    Lee 8mm Maximum 250gr RNFP, 15gr. 10b101, COL 3.13, 5 shots, 3/4" @ 40yards.
    Not chronograghed, pleasant to shoot, almost no real recoil.-Hamish
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    338-06
    " I had Tom @ Accurate make a mould, which is now in his catalog, the 33-210-P, for paper patching. Patched with 15# green bar paper (what else?) and sized to .339" they are a perfect fit. I loaded a few over 1.9cc 10B101"-nobade

    375 H&H
    25.0gr with 290gr and 400gr bullets. No signs of excess pressure via expansion ring measurements. Accuracy and recoil on par with 23.0gr Blue Dot loads I have used previously. -redneckdan
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    45/70 and Mauser
    The Ranch Dog TLC458-350 over 19.2 gr. 10B101 (lot 91A-009) chrono'd an average of 1310 fps and shot 5 shots into 1 1/2" at 50 yds.
    Lee 500 gr. Postell type plain base over 16.2 gr. 10B101 and a dacron filler for about 1130 fps and 6 shots into 1 7/8" 50 yds.
    Both loads felt fairly mild compared to some I've shot.-dualsport

    "I tried 16 grns to 24 in the 45-70 and the Lyman 457-124 385 grn in my Simiese mauser. 2 loads of each, no pressure no leading. A heavy crimp seems to improve things.

    Tried it in a 45/70. 1886 Browning Winchester 24 inch barrel. 24 grains pushed a 405 to 1560fps and a 500 grain to 1415 fps. Uses up quite a bit of case space doing it.-Aaron"

    Mid 40 degree temps. 405 gr GC flat point in 45/70, 24 grs gives 1500 out of my 24 inch barrelled 1886. 500 gr plain based round noses give 1400 with the same charge. I sighted in the 500 gr loads in my Shiloh as well.

    Here is where it gets interesting. I have some 300 gr Speer Gold Dots left from my 50 Beowulf, so I thought I would use them up in my 500 JRH. Started with 26 grs figuring it would give me 1200 fps and lower to mid 30,000 psi range. It actually chronod at 1197-- right on the money. This is basically 100% loading density, depending on how much the flakes settle out. I moved on to 27 gr loads. The first round tripped the chrono at 2103 fps!! I think what the he!!... The empty case fell from the chamber and the primer was not excessively flattened...but the doesn't always mean anything with a tight polished chamber and headspace, which Jack's are. In any event, I thought maybe it was an error with the chrono, so I sent another one over, it went 2097 fps!!-Aaron

    405 gr. Lee PB, 22.1 gr. (2.2cc dipper) 10B101 lot #91A-009, 1/2 gr. dacron wad.
    It did burn clean and kicked hard-dualsport

    "RCBS 459-325-FN-U over 1.9cc 10B101 I use this in cowboy silhouette to very good effect. About 1400 fps with tolerable recoil. "-Nobade
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    480 Ruger
    This is out of my custom short-barreled Ruger flat top. Miha 476-640.
    16 grs--965fps
    17 grs--1005fps
    18 grs--1025fps
    Same lot as previously posted -Aaron
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    Mosin Nagant converted to 500 S&W.
    Lee 440gr. paper patched.
    2.2cc 10B101 shot into a ragged hole at 25 yards, under an inch at 50
    1.9cc 10B101 at about 1250 fps, and very accurate. Duplicates the 50-70 and is easy to shoot.-Nobade


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    50-100-450 Winchester

    My lot # is 91A-009
    28grs in 20 inch barreled 1886 with a 422grGB NOE hp averaged 1558 fps and very uniform. Three rounds were 1556, 1558, 1558.-Aaron
    Last edited by Hamish; 05-15-2016 at 11:00 PM. Reason: Load Data Update

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    Lets put the lot number on these tests. From what I have read there were two different lots of this powder. Better safe than sorry!

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    Just asking, not suggesting; anybody tried 10B101 as a kicker for a real slow burner like WC860 or IMR5010? Sure be some cheap shooting, if it worked ok.

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    Not yet because of the problem measuring the stuff, but I'm about out of Blue Dot, which is what I normally use as kicker in my 6x45 with 860, so 10B101 will probably get a trial soon. Gotta get this 860 used up somehow! See here: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=121224
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    another .30-30 load test: (50 rds)

    I used 14.0 grains of 10B101 (Lot#91A-009) pushing a TLC311-165-RF with hornady gas check sized to .309" lubed with lee alox, cast with WW alloy. I fired this out of a good condition win 1894 levergun. I used mixed head stamped brass and cci large rifle primers. I brought along some rounds loaded up with 4895 as a comparison for accuracy, noise and recoil.

    The load did recoil, but was pleasant to shoot (as expected). I'd say it kicked about 30-40% less than the 4895 loads. The report was only slightly quieter than the 4895 loads with a pronounced crack. I did not have a chrono, but I expect these to be somewhere in the 1600-1700 fps range. I was shooting with iron v-notch sights, and the 4895 loads shot to POA. However, these loads were shooting under the paper at 100 yards. I adjusted my sights to the highest elevation, and the rounds still shot low. I used some "kentucky windage" and managed to pull off about 3 MOA with this load, aiming well above the paper. I will have to get a steeper elevation ramp for this gun, and re-test. Other than that, no signs of pressure, nor leading, and it burned very clean. I hope I can get this load to POA, because it sure is a lot of fun, took a while to make the barrel warm also.

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    So what say ye about theis load velocity

    wrong spot for the post I had.
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    .357 Marlin with 10B101: Same lot as in above post using Ruger Blackhawk .357; Lee 358-158 RF, tumble lubed in LLA mix, loaded as cast, 10.2 gr. 10B101 and Tula SP primer gave 4" groups at 75 yds. My Marlin 1894c is wearing a 2.5X shotgun scope. The idea was a simple load with minimum work and expense. I would take a WAG that the velocity was around 1500 fps. Some unburned powder left in barrel, slightly dirty load but useable and cheap.

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    50-100-450 Winchester

    28grs in 20 inch barreled 1886 with a 422grGB NOE hp averaged 1558 fps and very uniform. Three rounds were 1556, 1558, 1558.

    Thanks

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    Can we post our Lot # with the load data as the burn rate of the different lots have been reported to be significantly different according to earlier posts.
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    My lot # is 91A-009

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    Once again, many thanks to those who have reported on their 10B101 loads. Loaded .38 Special today with confidence because of it. Working on 7mm BR data.
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    Anybody have any ideas about the 35 Whelon and the 290 grain GC casting other than start at say 10 grns and go up slowly.
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    Dirt Farmer, I have no suggestions outside of start at ten grains and work up slowly ...Ray

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    Thanks Ray, I needed that. I was just looking for the easy way out. However I think I will take your sugestion and start at 10 grns and work up.
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    In my Marlin 62 30 Carbine, 7.0gr. is a good load for 115gr. bullets. Even without gas checks it works well. 10.0gr. was way too hot, sticks cases in the chamber and really flattens primers. 10.0gr. is a case full.

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    30/40 B&M31169 10B101@100yds

    Got out for a bit this morning with my parkerized 92/96 Krag. I had done some shooting with this bullet up around 1550fps, and it looked like she wanted to go a little slower. So I dropped the charge of 10B101 (Lot# 91A-009) back from a 1.3cc dipper to a 1.0cc. Weight of that 1cc charge is 11.2gr. I guesstimate that dropped the speed down to around 1400fps or so. Group measures .9"x1.4". Someday I'll finish hand cutting a dovetail in one of my Krag barrels so I can mount a scope with a bit more than 6x using an old Miller Kodiak mount. I think they'd come close to shooting into one hole if I could see a bit better.

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    10B101 & J-words

    Not a super group, but...it was one of my lesser Krags, one that I'd put a new forearm on and back bored a little bit. Add to that the fact that I forgot my raindrop deflection chart, used iron sights, my eyes are 54 years old, and the rifle is 111, then it ain't too shabby. 22.2gr, approx, as I simply used the 1.9cc Lee dipper, should yield around 2000fps. It was pretty close to being on the range markings on the 1901 sight. Oh the bullet, Nosler 168gr HPBTM seconds. Bob S, known super shooter, told me I had an astigmatism, front sights appear to be leaning to left when I look through a peep sight. This powder does a lot of burning in the case neck, no doubt about it, they almost look freshly annealed.

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    madsenshooter

    That is close to mild full power load, is it not?
    Nothing is impossible for the person that does not have to do it.

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    The pressure is getting up there TC, but not a max load yet, my guesstimate around 35,000psi, That group, shabby as it looks, would have held the 10 ring on a 200 reduced for 100 target with proper sight adjustment.
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    "raindrop deflection chart"

    This is not the first time you have mentioned this piece of frippery, and I ai'nt buyin' it.

    By my highly sciencetifical and logical brain I am deduceifying that you have a chart that you lay out in the rain and by how many rain drops falls on the chart in the time you clap your hands and spin around twice, you adjust your sight for how much the rain will lower your point of impact.

    Just where do you get off denying the rest of us this dazzling new cutting edge technowlodgy?

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check