308 bullet from 9mm brass?

[nhrifle]

Brian, beautiful work as always. You are definitely setting the standard for others to follow.

[Bollocks]

FWIW,

I quit making .30 boolits from 9mm cases. Too much work for mediocre results.

Chrs from Holland,
BolloX

[rasto]

Bollocks can you show us your final product together with your dies?
Thanks in advance.

[historicfirearms]

There seems to be a lot of interest in these. If they work good maybe we could get a group buy on them. I'd be interested for sure.

[AZ-JIM]

I for one am new to swaging, so new I havent tried it yet. But I am very happy to see that 308's can be made and I was wondering if a boat tail is possible?

az-jim

[shangrila]

I'd like something like this for 300 blackout. Let me know if anyone has tried it.

[BT Sniper]

Not recomended trying to form a boattail on the solid base of a 9mm-308. Best way to do it would be to turn it off on a lathe but........ lot of work.

Anything is possible.

BT

[AZ-JIM]

Not recomended trying to form a boattail on the solid base of a 9mm-308. Best way to do it would be to turn it off on a lathe but........ lot of work.

Anything is possible.

BT

What about if you are drawing jackets from from copper sheet or brass for that matter and introduced the BT in one of the final forming stages?

[Lizard333]

I for one am new to swaging, so new I havent tried it yet. But I am very happy to see that 308's can be made and I was wondering if a boat tail is possible?

az-jim

To be honest I would stick with commercial jackets if your putting a boat tail on a bullet. Using brass the base the is considerably more enforced.

A flat based boolit will do really well out past a couple hundred yards. Only then does the advantages of the boat tail come into effect.

How far are you planning on shooting these??

[DukeInFlorida]

I echo Lizard333's comments and question.

If you are striving for benchrest shooting quality, you will be disappointed with making bullets from 9mm jackets. Buy expensive commercial J4 jackets.

If, however, you are plinking, hunting, or otherwise OK with pretty damned good accuracy out to about 100 yards, then you might be happy with 9mm cases, or 5.7X28FN cases as jackets.

Forget about boat tails with brass cases, however.

[AZ-JIM]

To be honest I would stick with commercial jackets if your putting a boat tail on a bullet. Using brass the base the is considerably more enforced.

A flat based boolit will do really well out past a couple hundred yards. Only then does the advantages of the boat tail come into effect.

How far are you planning on shooting these??

I echo Lizard333's comments and question.

If you are striving for benchrest shooting quality, you will be disappointed with making bullets from 9mm jackets. Buy expensive commercial J4 jackets.

If, however, you are plinking, hunting, or otherwise OK with pretty damned good accuracy out to about 100 yards, then you might be happy with 9mm cases, or 5.7X28FN cases as jackets.

Forget about boat tails with brass cases, however.

Nope not planning on using them in matches. I was just curious, like I said swaging is a new arena for me so Im gathering knowledge. If 200-300 is good for these boolits that is fine, even for hunting, that is about as far an ethical shot you should take in uncontrolled conditions anyway imho. So acceptable results for less work sounds good to me.

az-jim

[shangrila]

This is what I'm looking for. Flat based and long taper around 120 grain or a heavy 220 grain (like the Sierra MatchKing HP). I want these for short range (100-200 yds.). Just my dreamlist

[DukeInFlorida]

You'll want to buy a set of BT Sniper's copper tubing dies.Will do exactly what you re looking to do.

This is what I'm looking for. Flat based and long taper around 120 grain or a heavy 220 grain (like the Sierra MatchKing HP). I want these for short range (100-200 yds.). Just my dreamlist

[shangrila]

I'll have to look at those. Thanks

[khamill2000]

As the proud owner of a set of BT's draw dies to reduce 9mm to 30 cal, I must say that they are very easy to use. I start with annealed brass and then just run each piece through all 4 dies and have very nice jackets. Very similar to derimming 22lr.

[BT Sniper]

Glad you like them. Thank you for your support and patience.

I'll have to try the 9mm-308 bullet again some day. I am sure I should be able to get under 1MOA with them.

Good shooting and Swage On!

BT

[Capt. Senile]

Are the dies able to handle longer 9mm cases, say 9mm Largo, to make heavier 308 bullets?

[BT Sniper]

Yes! But I wouldn't sacrifice valuable brass (I'm not fimilar with that 9mm case), if you want somthing longer then a 9mm can make you might as well use a cut 223rem case. IMO

The 223 will certainly make any weight 30 cal bullet when teh 9mm runs out of jacket space.

BT

[Capt. Senile]

223 cases in and of themselves are too valuable (right now) to use as jacket material. Even buying new 9 x 23 or 9mm Largo is cheaper than 223, provided 223 can be found at all.

[BT Sniper]

Good point, I hadn't checked 223 brass availabilty latly. Heck if you had to buy brass you might as wel try to find FN5.7x28 for easy perfect 30 cal jackets. At one time I could find them for 7 cents each.

BT