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Thread: 20 Ga. Double slug gun Build

  1. #21
    Boolit Grand Master

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    Wow! Nice indeed!

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    I love it. Everything about it is "classy" Like a supermodel in a slinky thigh slit dress. Elizabeth Hurley in Bedazzled. The wood is AWESOME!!! I can only dream about a stock that well done. The contrast with the barrels, then the scope is beautiful. You definately have my admiration and envy.
    I came into this world kicking, screaming, and covered in someone elses blood. I plan to go out the same way.

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    Another option for those wanting a Double but don't want to mortgage the house.......

    Inserts for a 12ga shot gun





    Lots more pictures here:

    http://public.fotki.com/Rbertalotto/...ikal-bounty-h/
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    UPDATE 01/16/12

    Hello All,

    Happy days are here.
    My RMC Brass showed up today.
    I ended up with 16 of each RB and Slug Cases.

    The RB will be 0.625" and the case mouth is 0.624"
    The slugs will be sized to 0.622" and case mouth 0.621"
    The slugs are 1 0z and 720 Gr or 520 Gr.(720 made into HP)

    The brass is headstamped No 20 RMC Ball and No 20 RMC.
    Workmanship look very good.
    Will get the calipers out and do detailed inspection.
    Went with the 3" length to get the bullet close to the forcing cone.
    Hope the std 10 Deg lead works.

    Need to get some 209's What is the hottest 209 ?

    Cheers Nitro
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
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    450 NE #1 SR
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    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

  5. #25
    Boolit Bub
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    how long did you have to wait for those brass cases from RMC?

    Fed 209A and CCI 209m seem to be the hotter of the bunch.

  6. #26
    Boolit Buddy
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    I ordered may 2011.
    Nitro
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
    DRSS
    Whomper's Club
    BASA (Big Bore Association of Southern Africa)
    470 NE DR
    45-70 DR/ 12 ga Paradox
    450 NE #1 SR
    577 NE Falling Block SR
    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

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    WOW! that is really nice. I like the furniture.

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    UPDATE 02/21/12

    Hello,

    Here is a pic of the RMC brass stoked with Trailboss and SWC Slug (450 Grain) and RB (350 Grain)



    The RB shot really well, super accurate, maybe 1.5 x 1.5 " group. 6 shots at 50 yds.
    The leading needs to be worked on.
    The velocity was 1540 R barrel and 1484 Left IIRC.
    32 grains Trailboss.
    I tore the target removing it almost one ragged hole at 50 yds.
    Since I am not done, and will size the balls to reduce leading, I will have another update on this.

    The slugs had really bad leading and very wide group, pressure was high.
    Flat primer, and one primer leaked a little.

    I also tried more factory ammo.
    This is the Brenneke silver slug 20ga 3".
    All targets 50 yds.



    This was Federal Premium with Barnes Xpander.



    This was Federal Fusion Sabot.



    So far it shoots Lighfields, Brenneke and Buckhammers really well.
    And ofcourse the round ball the best.

    Nitro
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
    DRSS
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    BASA (Big Bore Association of Southern Africa)
    470 NE DR
    45-70 DR/ 12 ga Paradox
    450 NE #1 SR
    577 NE Falling Block SR
    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

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    Well, I got some time to persue my 20 Bore DR loading.

    I loaded some 350 gr balls over Blue Dot with 20S1 wads and 1/8” nitro cards in Multi-hulls (8)

    Also did some Hammerheads over Blue Dot (just 2)

    Did some of the BPI DGS slugs over 800X (8)

    I did some more of the 350 gr RB over Trailboss, in RMC Brass, added lube in the case neck. (8)

    Did some RB on a wad column over Blue Dot, RMC brass lots of lube in the neck (2)

    The idea is shoot 2 over the chrony, out of the H&R SB1, check for issues if OK

    Shoot 3 Rights and 3 Lefts out of the DR for accuracy and regulation.

    The afternoons labour.



    The wad column combinations.



    Will post targets after shooting.

    Nitro .
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
    DRSS
    Whomper's Club
    BASA (Big Bore Association of Southern Africa)
    470 NE DR
    45-70 DR/ 12 ga Paradox
    450 NE #1 SR
    577 NE Falling Block SR
    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

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    Boolit Mold
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    "lube in the case neck", are you doing anything special or just putting some lube around the lip between the ball and shell when it is seated?
    Thanks, I really want to get in to reloading metallic shot shell reloading and I have always wanted a double rifle so this thread and your other one on NE has really piqued my interest (now if those threads could just pique my bank accounts. )

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    UPDATE 9/17/12

    Sights are in, hi viz see through and traditional V notch.
    Engraving font chosen.












    Getting closer to blue.

    Nitro
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
    DRSS
    Whomper's Club
    BASA (Big Bore Association of Southern Africa)
    470 NE DR
    45-70 DR/ 12 ga Paradox
    450 NE #1 SR
    577 NE Falling Block SR
    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

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    Update 9/22/12

    Engraving done.



    Nitro
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
    DRSS
    Whomper's Club
    BASA (Big Bore Association of Southern Africa)
    470 NE DR
    45-70 DR/ 12 ga Paradox
    450 NE #1 SR
    577 NE Falling Block SR
    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

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    Ohhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
    John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"

    Forget everything you know about loading jacketed bullets. This is a whole new ball game!


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    Boolit Buddy
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    Update 10/22/12
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    Well the progress continues.
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    The sights are done, both sets, traditional with night sight and fibre.
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    The front sight base is stippled.
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    The chamber designation on the flats hase beed changed from 16/70 to 20/76.
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    Ready for blueing.
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    Thanks Nitro
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
    DRSS
    Whomper's Club
    BASA (Big Bore Association of Southern Africa)
    470 NE DR
    45-70 DR/ 12 ga Paradox
    450 NE #1 SR
    577 NE Falling Block SR
    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

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    Sweet job. 8)

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    THAT IS QUITE GORGEOUS. Alright calm down heartbeat.

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    Thanks all.

    Nitro
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
    DRSS
    Whomper's Club
    BASA (Big Bore Association of Southern Africa)
    470 NE DR
    45-70 DR/ 12 ga Paradox
    450 NE #1 SR
    577 NE Falling Block SR
    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

  18. #38
    Boolit Bub
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    Nice build, are those NECG front sights?

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    Boolit Buddy
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    Yes,
    Nitro
    "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall
    DRSS
    Whomper's Club
    BASA (Big Bore Association of Southern Africa)
    470 NE DR
    45-70 DR/ 12 ga Paradox
    450 NE #1 SR
    577 NE Falling Block SR
    20 ga. Schimmel/Simson DR
    12 Bore DR WW Greener

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    I have no idea what you hunt with this (or CAN'T hunt with it!) but WOW! A real work of art sir.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check