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    Contact the Bullshop and see what he has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10x View Post
    Slug your bore and measure your chamber mouths.
    Absolutely, I've owned and shot dozens of Webleys in 0.455" over the years and the majority of them have had the chamber mouths enlarged so that flat based boolits could be used.

    This seems to have been common with civilian target shooters so SoS pistol were more likely to have had this done.

    Shooting the original boolits in enlarged chambers leads to serious lead spitting at the forcing cone.


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    Really? I have never encountered this when shooting plain base bullets in my Webleys or Colt and S&W chambered in .455. Usually they are sized to .455 or .454" to try to match the bore.

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    If you don't want to cast for the original shaped .455 265 LRNHB bullet, this guy does not do e-mail or use computers, but here is his contact information:

    Bob Hayley
    211 North River
    P.O. Box 889
    Seymour, Texas 76380

    Ph: 940-888-3352

    His price recently was $20/100 for the 265 LRNHB soft cast bullet with SPG lube plus shipping which the minimum was $15.00.

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    Dusting off this old thread, the two .455 Webley revolvers I have owned had cylinder throat dimensions which varied all over the map from .449 to .453" in the SAME CYLINDER with no two chambers being alike! Accuracy was VERY MUCH improved by having DougGuy hone the cylinder throats to remove old tool marks and pitting and to make all six chambers uniform so that all would smoothly accept a .4550" gage pin and none would accept a .4555" pin. Even when firing my "old" handloads with .452 bullets in the honed .455 chambers fliers were reduced and accuracy improved. Using unsized bullets tight clusters at 25 yards were obtained off sandbags and I could keep hits on a steel silhouette at 100 yards.

    I then ordered new gang molds from Accurate http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=45-259H-D.png which drop bullets of correct size, from soft 8-10 BHN alloy, so that bullets can be tumble-lubricated in Lee Liquid Alox and be loaded as-cast, WITHOUT sizing. A charge of 3.5 grains of Bullseye is correct to approximate service velocity using the 240-262 grain bullets in Hornady or Fiocchi brass. The heavier 272 and 290-grain bullets can be loaded with the same charge in full length 0.87" .455 Mk1 cases available from Reed's Custom Ammo http://shop.reedsammo.com/455-Eley-4...5eleybrass.htm

    Lighter versions of the in 240, 272 and 290 grains are also available see pgs. 12-13 of the online catalog. The proper weight for your revolver can be selected as needed to provide correct point of impact for its fixed sights. Tom also has the 45-245D ogival wadcutter version which shoots well:

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    Good job on resurrecting that old warhorse. Old guns are fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    Dusting off this old thread, the two .455 Webley revolvers I have owned had cylinder throat dimensions which varied all over the map from .449 to .453" in the SAME CYLINDER with no two chambers being alike! Accuracy was VERY MUCH improved by having DougGuy hone the cylinder throats to remove old tool marks and pitting and to make all six chambers uniform so that all would smoothly accept a .4550" gage pin and none would accept a .4555" pin. Even when firing my "old" handloads with .452 bullets in the honed .455 chambers fliers were reduced and accuracy improved. Using unsized bullets tight clusters at 25 yards were obtained off sandbags and I could keep hits on a steel silhouette at 100 yards.

    I then ordered new gang molds from Accurate http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=45-259H-D.png which drop bullets of correct size, from soft 8-10 BHN alloy, so that bullets can be tumble-lubricated in Lee Liquid Alox and be loaded as-cast, WITHOUT sizing. A charge of 3.5 grains of Bullseye is correct to approximate service velocity using the 240-262 grain bullets in Hornady or Fiocchi brass. The heavier 272 and 290-grain bullets can be loaded with the same charge in full length 0.87" .455 Mk1 cases available from Reed's Custom Ammo http://shop.reedsammo.com/455-Eley-4...5eleybrass.htm

    Lighter versions of the in 240, 272 and 290 grains are also available see pgs. 12-13 of the online catalog. The proper weight for your revolver can be selected as needed to provide correct point of impact for its fixed sights. Tom also has the 45-245D ogival wadcutter version which shoots well:

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    I have a Webley and a couple of 1917 S & W in .455 - One S&W has a 0.456 bore I will be shooting these this summer if time permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10x View Post
    I have a Webley and a couple of 1917 S & W in .455 - One S&W has a 0.456 bore I will be shooting these this summer if time permits.
    My S&W .45 Hand Ejector has .455 throats and also likes 45-262H in ACP brass with 4 grains of Bullseye, 700 fps. If you have not ordered from Tom before, you can specify your alloy and desired minimum diameter when you order, tolerance is +0.002 on diameters, so if you order 45-262H as drawn as-cast diameter in wheelweights will be .4555-.4560. The other designs which are drawn at .452 CAN be ordered larger. I usually specify my minimum diameter as 0.0015" under revolver throat size to let the normal tolerance work in my favor and load bullets as-cast and unsized, with Lee Liquid Alox or LSStuff 45-45-10
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