I have been using blc-2 powder in my Win 30-30 for some time now with good success to the point that it was all that I used. I developed the load long before I got a chroney and did not know how fast the 150gn hornadys were going, until the other day. i haved found that the velocity is nowhere near published velocity of 2358 and a factory winchester clocked in at 2282 for a 170gn bullet and mine averaged 2177 with 150 gn hornady and 36.7 gn of blc-2. This would not be a problem since i have not hunted with this rifle for some time ,but this year I have a spot to deer hunt that is wooded and will only make short range shots so I was planning to take my 30-30 and leave the 270 win at home in the warm house. I really would like to get all that I can get from the 30-30 but I am at a loss. I reworked the load up from 36gn wich gave me an average 2204 fps up to 36.4 with average velocity of 2162 fps and then back to the 36.7 gn with average velocity of 2162. It seems that the more the powder charge is the slower. (Think that I may try 1gn of powder) I am using standard cci larger rifle primers, and got similar results with the winchester. I am not expecting to get 2358fps as they most likely used a 24 inch barrel, but I would like to get into the upper 2200s. The load data from hodgen shows standard primers, but I was thinking that since it is a ball powder that I may need to use magnum primers. My chroney seems to be accurate and everything else that I have tried seems to be in line. I picked up a can of h4895 that I plan to try if I cant get the blc2 to work out. I may try to burn it up on .223 rems and give the IMR4198 (was my first powder I tried in 30-30) a rest. Thanks in advance for any help.