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    Basswood is another wood with similar texture. used for carving.
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    I like wood and it seems you are seeking a class of wood for its porosity after charcoaled?

    Yes?
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    OK , next time I'll post when I'm not cooking
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    FOOD That is!
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    This is going to sound stupid but I have to ask. Since moose pretty much eat only willow would moose pellets work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullshop View Post
    This is going to sound stupid but I have to ask. Since moose pretty much eat only willow would moose pellets work?
    You're dead right about that, ya know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearcove View Post
    I like wood and it seems you are seeking a class of wood for its porosity after charcoaled?

    Yes?
    Ideally that the pores are the same size & equal distant for each other. Also, the amount of & what the non carbon chemical residue is that is left in the charcoal.

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    Now you guys are gonna get me in trouble with the Mrs. Still building my F/L (GPR) , making a pot for casting (got the mold, dipper and thermo) and now building a ball mill and press to make BP and corn it.....

    Motor is an old washer motor, tube is made outta 4" pvc, got the barrings and the roller rods. just need the belts and pullies (where is that old riding mower?) Trying to source the bottle jack second hand. Gonna have to get the C channel and the 1" plate from the scrap yard. All I should have to buy is the gauge and the all thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly View Post
    For my cap & ball revolvers I do press mind.But for Muzzle loaders I just weigh
    what I made against Goex & what ever volume mind comes out to be at the same weight I just use that volume.SIMPLE!
    Fly
    so, let me get this straight....

    if you use 80 grains of Goex from your Measure, you would WEIGH that, and then use the equivilent WEIGHT of homemade powder..... I assume you would then calculate the VOLUME of said WEIGHT, and reset your measure to that for HOMEMADE BP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanuk View Post
    so, let me get this straight....

    if you use 80 grains of Goex from your Measure, you would WEIGH that, and then use the equivilent WEIGHT of homemade powder..... I assume you would then calculate the VOLUME of said WEIGHT, and reset your measure to that for HOMEMADE BP?
    If I have been reading the pyro sites correctly if you don't corn your BP then the volume to weight ratio is off (more fluffy BP).

    corning involves pressing your BP to 1.7g/cc (the videos i have watched on the subject it looks like it requires about 3k psi depending on your die size)

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    OK. here is another ???

    I cannot find reasonably priced KNO2, the best I found is $12.99/lb

    and agriculture fert that is recommended is around 15-0-44

    I can get 40-0-0 (or something like that... Pure nitrogen)
    and I can get 0-0-60 (pure potassium)

    Can I mix them in some ratio???
    do I even need "K" if I can get pure NO2??

    also, sulfur is available large quantiities.....

    Can someone give me some direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanuk View Post
    OK. here is another ???

    I cannot find reasonably priced KNO2, the best I found is $12.99/lb

    and agriculture fert that is recommended is around 15-0-44

    I can get 40-0-0 (or something like that... Pure nitrogen)
    and I can get 0-0-60 (pure potassium)

    Can I mix them in some ratio???
    do I even need "K" if I can get pure NO2??

    also, sulfur is available large quantiities.....

    Can someone give me some direction?
    Spectracide stump remover is available at Walmart and it is supposed to be almost pure KNO2, $4.90 a pound. I just got some the other day. Skylighter has sulfur by the pound. Wills put up a link to them a page or 2 back. IIRC the sulfur was about 4 or 5 bucks a pound.

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    OOOPPS I just noticed you are in Canada. You might still try to find the stump remover and a drug store for the sulfur.

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    You may find sulfur as a garden/farm powder to sprinkle onto plants as a mitacide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nanuk View Post
    OK. here is another ???


    and agriculture fert that is recommended is around 15-0-44

    I can get 40-0-0 (or something like that... Pure nitrogen)
    and I can get 0-0-60 (pure potassium)

    Can I mix them in some ratio???
    do I even need "K" if I can get pure NO2??
    No, that is the wrong nitrogen for making it kwikly. Also, 0-0-60 fertilizer is "dirty" It is, IMO, better to use the potassium chloride that is sold for water softeners.

    If you can get cold packs that are ammonium nitrate based(ACE brand) view the following:

    http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-ma...-packs-274503/

    I don't think calcium nitrate & CAN fertilizers are restricted in Canada. These can be used to make KNO3. The needed potassium carbonate can be purchased at pottery supply store or wood ashes can be used.

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    I guess I'll just have to keep my eyes peeled for some of the right stuff.

    if it is not going to be cost effective, then it is not going to be worth the effort.

    "Common" AG fertilizer is not so common, neither is stump remover. I found some but it is $13.00/lb.

    not bad considering the last BP I found was over $40.00/lb
    the fake stuff is $20.00/lb, but I would still like to make my own.

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    99% KN03 should be about 2 USD per pound. S and C either the same, or somewhat cheaper. Unless you are making a significant amount, I'd forget the whole idea. ... felix
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    Quote Originally Posted by felix View Post
    99% KN03 should be about 2 USD per pound. S and C either the same, or somewhat cheaper. Unless you are making a significant amount, I'd forget the whole idea. ... felix
    I just got 100lb(tomatoes want some too) of Kno3 for $1.50 a per pound in town. I could have saved $.07/lb if I bought it off ebay.

    As for the sulfur for pure rubber makers its $5/lb plus shipping.

    and charcoal should only cost you time and a brand new steel paint can. make your own look up a test many have been done on different varieties of trees.

    I haven't made it yet but these are realistic prices for the US.

    Plus the ball mill and media also a press if your corning it, and screens to separate the sizes.

    My ball mill cost me - $23 (that mostly was the canister at $17) and a new cap for a motor. media is lead balls wonder where I got them?

    press - free neighbor has one i can use. Die - I'm a machinist.

    the only thing left is the screen and i don't want to pay $25 per and you need at least 2, 3 is better. I'm making 3f and 4f, if you want also 2f a 4th and 5th screen is needed. So I'm attempting to find a better deal and reading on how to tell the different sizes still.

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    like I posted earlier, I can get pure N and pure K.

    I may try mixing them and filtering them.

    Perotter thinks that will not be successful

    as for KNO3, I only found one place that sells it at $13.00/lb

    ALL the garden stores are no longer stocking it.

    as for 15-0-44, I've read that it is good for BP, but no one is stocking that either.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanuk View Post
    like I posted earlier, I can get pure N and pure K.

    I may try mixing them and filtering them.

    Perotter thinks that will not be successful

    as for KNO3, I only found one place that sells it at $13.00/lb

    ALL the garden stores are no longer stocking it.

    as for 15-0-44, I've read that it is good for BP, but no one is stocking that either.....
    15-0-44 is KNO3. the manufactures cant agree on the numbers 13-15 - 0 - 42-46 are the numbers I have seen.

    You might have to see if any of the stores can order it in. That's what I did. Called and the store said No but we might be able to get it. they called me back in 5min and said we can have it by friday.

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