I'm thinking of buying an 1885 Higw Wall, either a Browning or Winchester, and have a question on mounting a vernier sight. I can't find a good picture of the top of the butt stock to see if there is a metal tang to mount a sight to of if the base of the sight would need to be mounted directly onto the wood (which to me would seem like a bad idea). If it makes any difference, I'm looking at a late model Winchester or Browning. Any help?
The current production winchester have the top tang and are drilled and tapped.
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Don is correct. I have a pair of the "Traditional Hunter" Winchesters with 28" barrels. Mounting a vernier sight to each was a piece of cake.
OK, so far so good. Second question: Would the Pedersoli Soule or the Lee Shaver Soule be a good choice for a Winchester along with the globe front sight that comes with each. They seem to be reasonably priced (still not cheap, but...) and readily available. Any other suggested sights that might work better on this gun? Thanks for the help so far.
The sights you mentioned are fine for target work however the rifle comes with a hunting tang sight and buckhorn iron sights. And yes the new 1885 Winchesters are drilled and tapped, I have two of them (.32-40 and .38-55)
Sight alignment, sight picture, squeeeeeze....
bullseye!
Dwight
Between here http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/2,217.html
and here http://www.montanavintagearms.com/
You should be able to come up with a sight that will serve about any purpose you want that rifle to perform. Not to mention the properly sized screws to mount the sight with.
Sights are like most things, you get what you pay for.
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Since you mentioned the Pedersoli, it stands to reason that the Lee Shaver sight you are considering is his 'economy' Soule (at $225).Originally Posted by NSB
The Shaver will sit at the correct angle for the Winchester IF you specify the make and model when you order the sight from him. That tilt angle is not adjustable (on the Shaver economy) but it is adjustable on most any other make.
Therefore, the Pedersoli will also work on your Winchester.
I see that Don has pointed you toward Buffalo Arms and Montana Vintage Arms, neither of which are sources for Ron Heilman's sights.
Heilman's work appears to be top-notch, and his price is $285...not a huge increase over the Pedersoli/Shaver combination you have been looking at.
Strangely, Don recently aquired a Heilman sight, and I have been waiting to hear how well it is working for him. It seems to be a bad omen that he is not pointing you in that direction.
Anyway, an email to Heilman will get you his 'flyer' on front and rear sights.
r.a.h*eilman@worldn*et.att.net (delete the asterisks to get his true address)
CM
Retired...TWICE. Now just raisin' cows and livin' on borrowed time.
And just what Maxwell would be your purpose in trying to back slidingly impune Ron's sights?.
I have reported on numerous occasions that I liked the sight just fine, and thought it to be of first rate quality.
I simply did not bring that sight up here as to the vaqueness of the ops wants and needs to the sights, and while Ron will happily send someone that asks for a copy of the brochure for his very well built and quality, very good buy for the money sights, The links provided give the op a quicker view and broad scope of the type of sights that are available that will work on his rifle of the possibly near future.
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Are you looking for a BPCR gun or just a hunting cal? I would favor the shaver sight over the pedersoli and add the good eyepiece. I have cheap import to baldwin sights and you get what you pay for.
I'm looking for something I can hunt deer, bear, elk, etc, with and the ranges would not be over 300 yards. I'm pretty sure I'm going with a Winchester High Wall unless there's something one of you might know that could persuade me otherwise. They look like a decent gun but finding reviews on them has been a waste of time. I can't find any good articles on them. I watched a show on tv where a couple of guys were hunting buffalo with them and they just looked like a lot of fun. I just don't enjoy shooting deer with scoped rifles.
You didn't say WHICH one you were looking at. BPCR and Traditional Hunter HAVE tangs. Some other models DO NOT and you can't mount tang sights.
Gus
I'm thinking of the 125th anniversary edition model. It just has the buckhorn rear sight and bead front sight. I couldn't tell from any of the pictures if it had a metal tang or not.
If a person is stuck onto a tang sight for hunting the Lyman or Marbles, or copy of either would be fine, a bit better at taking the abuse that can happen to a sight than a vernier/soule type tang sight. Myself for hunting I prefer the barrel mounted laddersights.
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Check for post by texas mac as he posted a lot on the 78 and 85 models. 300 yds is short range for BPCR but 12# rifle and soule sights might be a little much to carry out and about.
I doubt that model has a tang, somebody correct me if I'm wrong?
That caveat said..........if you want a serious Vernier sight, get a Montana Vintage Arms.
John C. Saubak
I have a few different sights on different rifles now. I have a Pedersoli (the mid range soule, not the ones that some call the "throw away ones"), and a Lee Shaver deluxe one with the Hadley eye cup. The windage marks on my Lee Shaver sight are done poorly (looks like someone from high school shop class did them), other than that the sight is great. The Pedersoli one works well but is very bulky and gets in the way of the wiping rod.
Of the two, I prefer the Lee Shaver.
I also like the CSA sights and find them superior to both.
Chris.
Isn't that basically the "Traditional Hunter" with some extra engraving? If that's the case then it's definitely drilled and tapped. I have a Traditional Hunter in .45-70 that I use for smokeless powder "off hand" practice.
Chris.
The 125 Anniversary was made by Browning and IIRC it does not have a tang.
I said, "Heilman's work appears to be top-notch, and his price is $285..." Do you mean to impune that I intended to impugn Heilman's skill in that sentence?
(Those are two different words, Cowboy, with different definitions. The first means to imply something, the second means to denigrate something, or someone. You used the first to accuse me of the second. Best stick with words you know...)Numerous occasions?I have reported on numerous occasions that I liked the sight just fine, and thought it to be of first rate quality.
The last time you posted, you had just received it, and said this...
The fact that you did not see fit to mention your new toy led me to think you may not like it as much after using it for awhile.
CM
Retired...TWICE. Now just raisin' cows and livin' on borrowed time.
Sorry Charlie that may be the last time I posted anything about it here, but certainly not the last time I posted anything about it.....
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