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Thread: The .32 S&W Long as a man-stopper

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    The above is sorta my long winded way of saying I carry something else when carrying. But if push came to hard shove I would be thankful something other than nothing were available if said 32s were all I had.

    In my own testing various “original ballistics” 32 Long loads using SWC, wadcutter or RN bullets had no problem penetrating well past FBI “minimums.”

    That’s a decent start.

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    Wow. I can't believe this thread is still going after 8 years.

    Well, I ended up getting a Charter Arms revolver with the unfortunate model name of "Undercoverette". I picked it up because it was literally the only revolver currently listed on the California Safe Handgun roster still chambered in .32 H&R Magnum. And while it isn't an outstanding handgun, it does give me a really good platform to test .32 S&W Long loads in before using them in my older guns. While .32 S&W Long still isn't my first choice for self defense, it is still better than nothing. Either the "man stopper" rounds from Buffalo Bore, or some reasonably peppy flat- points of some sort handloaded towards the upper end of the load data. I just wish the sights on the Charter Arms revolver were better.

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    Historically, the 32 S&W cartridges and guns have likely been used to stop an amazing number of robbers, assailants and killed quite a few people along the way too.

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    In my 'uninformed' opinion; any .32 bullet hit in the torso area would be 'distracting' to an assailant in an Altercation involving weapons. Perhaps enough to 'spoil' the assailant's aim and perhaps 'dissuade' from further attack. As a probable minimum it would give the intended victim some added time to remove themselves from the immediate area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7000al View Post
    I am reading 8 years later up through 8 pages and am sure i will stick to the end. Fascinating discussion, and i do enjoy learning from those more wise and experienced than myself. One curious point, though, wouldn't the "hot loaded" 32 long under discussion be fundamentally a 32 H&R magnum, though in a shorter case? Thanks for sharing your experience!
    You are correct. Initial work was done in .32 S&W Long brass making essentially a +P load, but Mike Bussard at Federal Cartridge, and Jay Jarvis at Ruger both convinced Ted Rowe at H&R that it would be best to lengthen the case slightly to prevent the hotter load from being used in older pre-WW2 revolvers. This was done, and the round standardized in that configuration. Later work was done at Ruger developing heavier .32 H&R Magnum loads having a sample average pressure about 15% above the SAAMI MAP for the .32 H&R Magnum, with the intent that those .32 H&R Mag +P rounds would be more effective in the Ruger Single Six, SP101 and could also be used in the S&W J-frames. Those rounds never materialized in factory form, but the .327 was adopted instead, so, as before, the longer case could be used only in modern guns designed for it. A sound choice.

    Using .32 S&W Long in the .327 is analogous to firing .38 Long Colt in a .357 Mag., the .32 H&R in the .327 compares to firing .38 Special in a .357. The increased bullet jump has some effect on accuracy, but utility for most field use is n ot impaired.
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    I don't mind keeping the discussion going, but perhaps we should make a new thread, as I suspect we're losing a lot of readers by not sticking a bit more closely to the thread topic. I invite you to start a thread more to your taste and define its topic, and to announce it here.
    I'm loving it 8 years later and 10 pages in. i'm sure i will read till the end. I love to absorb the knowledge and accumulated wisdom of the older guys. So glad you guys shared!
    The first paragraph is Molly, i just haven't figured out all the angles of quoting yet.
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    Agree that the Mods could lock and archive this thread. There are other threads addressing loading of the various .32 cartridges for field and recreational use, and perhaps those could be merged. I would like to see a new sticky combining all of the " .32 Popgun" threads.
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    If you include information on .32 Rimfire and the Later activity to make replacements for the RF cartridges, either as Adapter Cases OR conversions to Center Fire; such as .32 Extra Short RF, .32 Short RF, .32 Long RF, .32 Extra Long RF, and teh .32 Colt Family of CF cartridges and 'Wildcat conversions'.

    The Total pages will exceed 30 and may Be actually Higher.

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    Last edited by Chev. William; 03-18-2019 at 08:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chev. William View Post
    If you include information on .32 Rimfire adn the Later activity to make replacements for the RF cartridges, either as Adapter Cases OR conversions to Center Fire; such as .32 Extra Short RF, .32 Short RF, .32 Long RF, .32 Extra Long RF, and teh .32 Colt Family of CF cartridges and 'Wildcat conversions'.

    The Total pages will exceed 30 and may Be actually Higher.

    Chev. William
    That would support an e-Book!
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