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We had the same winds, but lots of rain. We had heavy fog Sunday morning, I think. There was a point were you could not see the berm behind the pits, number boards or targets, just gray. We waited it...

Bob,
You have a great bunch of guys over there and I know you have fun, I've seen it!

I think we had about 16 shooters. It went well for some, but not so much for the unlucky shooters on lucky...

Don,

I think you are correct, there are probably more grease groovers losing matches evry year than there are paper patchers. Another good reason to wrap them bullets!

I don't know if Lodi, WI is the only range in the country that is being dominated by paper patch shooters or not. I would find it hard to believe that is the case, but I don't get out much!

I have...

Ascast,

What we have here is the difference between bore diameter and groove diameter paper patch bullets. Both can work very well, but again diameter sizes are very important to understand.

A...

If those .380 diameter bullets fit your fire formed cases you need some thicker brass! With lead bullets no matter what diameter bullet you put in the chamber it will be case inside diameter when the...

I'm with Chill and Ed on this, + or - a few grains between cases is not going make enough of a difference to see with all the other variables we deal with. We not really loading for 1/4 minute groups...

FarNorth,

What I have done with my .45-70 and .45-90 is buy 300 to 500 Starline brass all at one time and of the same lot. That has given me very uniform brass and results. I NEVER anneal my...

I've been dry patching now longer than I can remember, but both methods work. I just prefer dry patching and the accuracy has been good.

I do run all my patched bullets through a sizing die after...

Idaho,

That would be something interesting to see shoot. I hope you'll post a range report soon?

Having worked on both Shiloh and foreign made BPC rifles I can tell you that there is a world of difference in the steel used to them. One machines like butter with a hot knife the other is made to...

Your patched base diameter can be .001 to .002 over your groove diameter just as you would do with a grease groove bullet. It might then fit you fireformed cases a bit better. I'm not sure if you can...

Darn! I went and got some popcorn, came back and sat down, but I must have missed the fireworks!

It's really, really hard to blow up a BPCR using straight black powder, you pretty much have to...

Pat,

Now you're making it look easy! Way to go!!!

Once you realize fully how easy loading extremely accurate paper patch loads is you'll wonder why anyone loads those other kind, you know the...

The stuff I have is that same brand, Staedler. It is .0015"-ish thick and it is about as thin as I can work with. I am noticing that as I work with it more it is getting a little easier, a little. It...

Just a suggestion on one thing to watch for and just trying to help. It looks like your patches may be a little far up the sides of the bullets. You'll know better by looking at your recovered...

What diameter were those "naked" bullets? Weights? Lengths? I need more information please!

I am assuming you're saying these were unloaded bullets?

Yellowhouse,

That is what I have been thinking for a while, that the rollers and Sharps in .44-2 1/4 were set up for paper patch. I wonder if any other rifles for other cartridges were set up like...

Don,

I have to say that being retired is the best job I've ever had!

I was building a new storage shed for firewood and my UTV and wood splitter plus a few other things that need to be under...

Don, you did give me several different kinds of pp bullets to try including some of those 2-D bullets and some .45 2-D bullets.

The .45 bullets I will try one of these days in my old .45-70 that...

Yellowhouse,

So the case would accept a bore diameter bullet (or close to it), but not a groove diameter bullet. This is something that I've wondered about every time I read that someone has one...

Ok, it's a 2-D bullet! That makes sense. I thought he was for some reason going with a more or less groove diameter. I believe I have some of your 2-D bullets, Don. Yep that will work. I'd have to go...

reinert,

So you'll be working with a bullet closer to groove diameter rather than a bore diameter ppb. I would think you'd want that to up into, as in touching, the rifling as much as possible. If...

Kurt,

I want a bullet that looks just like the ones in those cartridges in the box! That is how a .44-77 bullet should look. I like it!

Yellowhouse,

Do you know what the bore diameter is for your original roller? I often see that they have groove diameters like yours but I never see any thing about the bore diameter. Also I'd like...