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Just to confirm, this was in your Gew 71?


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It’s something like bhn of 5 vs 11, which probably was his point. He’s saying something that hard can still fill the grooves. I have pure and 20:1 lead that I can experiment with, but I prob should...

You have a good point. I've seen the kinds of grease grooves black powder cowboy shooters use for their lever actions. Those have short barrels and the grooves are massive! This point may make the...

Yep, I know that. But wouldn't a soft lead GG bullet bump up also?
Therefore my question, why would people claim that the PP would be better at filling the groove than the GG? Not looking for an...

thanks ascast! I'll need to save up some funds to gear up (don't even have brass yet!) but I think this would be a fun project :)



From the many helpful posts here and also based on the fact...

thanks curdog007, I'll probably be shooting it with Swiss 1.5s since that's what I have a lot of.

Still the historical aspects of the round doesn't answer my question. Why would pp bullets work...

This is starting to sound like an interesting experimental project :)

I'm getting into Mausers and hope to start a collection focused on the progression of design updates. Unless I find a 71...

Thanks uscra112 for the historical information.

What I'm still not understanding is why would a bullet paperpatched to 0.448" be better than a GG bullet sized to 0.448" ? If they are the same...

Hello all, I have a paper patching question in relation to German Gewehr Model 1871.

Unlike it's updated version Model 71/84, the groove diameter is larger on the 71. My chamber casting...

interesting vid with cross patching.
Never seen a ML with a gigantic barrel like that!

Is it embedded in the article on reloading the 45-90?

perhaps this is a topic for another forum post, but would breech seating require special kind of throat? If there's a good and easy to understand post somewhere, I'd like to study up!

thanks everyone for the info. Still hoping to see an example in picture form from those who use this method.
I know this method works well for LRML as well. I'm interested in using it for my...

It indeed it is, but I think it was developed for cartridges by Mr.Chase first. I haven't seen as many resources on it as much as the double wrap method. Maybe it's because it's simple enough not to...

Does anyone here use the Chase paper patching method for either muzzle loader or BPCR? If so, I would be really grateful if you could post some pictures. I've read a few forum posts about it and...

Gotcha. Thanks for the advice!


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I think I found it. Do you have to replace the entire sight base, or can I just replace the leaf?
I'm curious; how come the sight picture is so different? the shape of the notch must be the same...

Could I get a closer look at the front and rear sight arrangement? I also have a PH P58 serial number on the 17xx and am working up a load for it. But the sights are tough to use.


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