Is this OK for Satans lube?

My first time making my own lube. I made this for pan lube.

I followed instructions on the forum. After the soap foam went down (I used 2 oz as this is TX), I removed from the low heat and added the beeswax. I guess it wasn't warm enough because some of the wax didn't melt.

I put it back on the burner and melted the wax on very low heat. It was looking good, about like melted 50/50. I hadn't planned on actually lubing any bullets, but since it was already liquid, decided to. So I ran inside, but couldn't find the cake pan I was looking for. When I checked the pan, it was foaming a bit. I went ahead and poured into muffin tins, but when I got to the bottom of the pan, there was maybe 1/4 cup of watery applesauce. I went ahead and poured it in top of the muffins and here's how they ended up:

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It seems as though the ingredients separate pretty easily if not get warm & stirred.

Will they remix when I melt to lube, or is this batch a bust?

I'm not an expert, nor have I made any Satan's Lube although it is similar in manufacture to FWFL which I have made. Looks like you didn't get the soap all melted sufficiently before adding the BW (ask me how I know!). After the foaming stops you need to get it hotter and mix until the liquid is translucent, if I recall correctly about 425*. Let it cool a bit, 300* or so, and then melt in the BW. I don't know if it's salvageable in its current state. To get it hot enough to melt the soap you'll probably scorch and ruin the BW. I have not tried to do that. I just threw it out and started another batch.
Hope this helps.

that's what the soap bubbling and giving off the water looks like.
you need it all gone before adding the wax.

I would scrape that goop off as best as I could then do a re-melt.
your lube should still be okay, just not the exact recipe you started out looking for.

Thanks river, that appears to have worked.

Remelting brought the rest to the top. Letting it cool a bit made a gravy skin on top I could scrape off.

These aren't precision boolits so, probably no big deal.

Run hit the nail on the head. Just let it cook a little longer before adding beeswax. Good luck with the remelt.

I have had no luck melting this lube back down after adding the b-wax. I find one of the biggest pains with satans lube is not being able to melt it down to pour in the sizer. Its a pain but I can't argue with the first shot from a cold barrel always being in the group.

Does that mean this lube in NOT good for Pan lubing ???

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Originally Posted by nun2kute

Does that mean this lube in NOT good for Pan lubing ???

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correct, but it should work good for finger lubing at room temp.

thanks JonB

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Originally Posted by nun2kute

Does that mean this lube in NOT good for Pan lubing ???

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Generally speaking any of the lube formulas with a significant soap content that also contain beeswax aren't great choices for pan lubing. If you get them hot enough to melt you will probably scorch the beeswax.

I haven't done enough experimenting to figure that out yet, but I am sure glad you have. Thanks Elkins !

For pan lubing you need to make a fairly substantial amount of lube. The Darr lube (Vaseline and paraffin with a little STP) or maybe a lithibee formula might be a good option. You can make a giant bucket full of either for not a whole lot of cost.

Simple Lube works well as a pan lube also.......

My experience has been good with re melting satan's lube. And I exclusively pan lube with it. My batch has been melted several times with no problems. Low heat.... just enough to liquify it.

As for adding the soap, I suggest melting outside or in the garage. While getting it hot enough to render the soap, it produces lots of smoke. That means the paraffin/vasoline is getting near the flash point, and could burst into flames. Haven't had it happen yet, but I expect it to maybe happen someday. And as others have said, beeswax added last after a small cool down

I also altered my recipe. I use.....

9 parts paraffin
6 parts vasoline
6 parts bees wax
And 1 part soap.

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It seems to group better in warm weather (45- 70). Use original recipe for cold weather use.

Stick with 1 part soap. It is just a binder for the other ingredients. If you add more then 1 part soap, you will get excessive foaming. And it doesn't take more then one part to do job it is supposed to do.