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Good article. The pentagonal cylinder sure takes some getting used to.
Nope, not me would not even touch off one round!
So ugly it hurts. Literally and figuratively! And a Custom Rem 700 .458 pistol is ILLEGAL. Some folks and their kids!
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the ugly hurts, but more than likely not that bad to shoot. its still not super light, and the 45-70 in a revolver just isnt all its cracked up to be when it comes to power.
In my 10 45-70 BFR, I have pushed 405gn cast to 1750fps before. I think that that is all it's cracked up to be.
Wrong $200 dollar Tax stamp on proper ATF form totally legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas by God
I'm trying to wrap my head around why a Remington 700 pistol in .458 would be illegal ?
But anyhoo .. I'm not a fan of the long frame bfr's , it's pure aesthetic's for me .
But I am a bfr fan , I love my .475 , And I've wanted to do a short barreled 500jrh for awhile if funds ever permitted .
This just affirms my desire :)
Mag is too short if you are referring to a 458 Win Mag but fully legal without a stamp as a 458 Win Mag single shot or a shortened 458 Win Mag for magizine usage. https://www.remington.com/handguns/700-cpQuote:
Originally Posted by Texas by God
If it started as a rifle the action can not be used since it would be a SBR. If it started as a pistol no issues. Heard the case on both sides about an unassigned action for use as a handgun. I am not comfortable make a statement on what is legal on that issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by redneck1
A virgin action can legally be made into a pistol.
That clears up my confusion , reading the article and seeing that custom built statement I just assumed it would have been built on a virgin action . And never even thought about anything else .
I'd of also automatically assumed that if it had been built on a rifle action the proper tax stamp would have been acquired.
I am truly impressed. I thought my 6 inch barreled BFR in .45-70 was the smallest one out there. I never thought that Magnum Research would custom make one until now. I totally missed it. I wear a shooting glove to prevent damage to by finger behind the trigger guard. But yes the recoil is a bit stiff.
If he had stayed with the standard cylinder and round barrel, and maybe gone another inch on the barrel, it would have been a cool looking pistol. But the author specifically chose the options that made it so hideous. I'd hate see his taste in clothes and cars. Probably drives a Pontiac Aztec and wears blue polyester leisure suits.
In my defense, the author stated that his cousin Steve had a 458 Winchester Magnum Remington 700 "pistol" built "years ago"- so I "assumed" that a Remington model 700 rifle in .458 WM was cut down for the purpose. During the XP100/Contender glory days of Silhouette shooting/hunting I desperately wanted to build my own 98 Mauser 8mm pistol- but the fact that it was a Felony put a damper on that idea. Maybe you could ask the BATF for permission first but they probably would say no.
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Ouch! I do not personally understand why anyone would want what looks like lightening cuts on a cannon like that. I would leave all the weight that could be aesthetically possible on the gun, because it's gonna kick you! More weight is your friend when there is that much power involved, I think. (Maybe some wheels too.)
Since no one factory produced a production XP 100 pistol in 458 Win Mag it had to be custom.. It was a handgun to begin with not a rifle turned info a pistol and was registered as a handgun. Not illegal to put a rifle caliber on a handgun. If it was explain a 223 Contender or a 30/06 Encore. Midwayusa used to sell Contender and Encore Barrels in rifle calibers before TC became a name only.
The barrels didnt need to be registered. I have bought rifle cartridge chambered barrels from SSK before to use in Encore and Contender frames registered as handguns.
How much power do you think the 45/70 revolver has? Not with the weak 45/70 ammo but the correct loading for power.
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It's a similar idea to the Ruger Alaskan. I don't know how you could possibly shoot something like that effectively. It's got to be better than the 45-70 derringer though.
That BFR chambered in 307 Winchester sure would be something to behold though. A real "short rifle".
That looks like something Officer Tackelberry on "Police Academy" would carry as a back up.