Looking at getting a Sam yang or Seneca Dragon Claw 50 cal air gun .
I have looked and looked and can not find what the max pellet/bullet length it will take
Any actual user info on this gun would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Printable View
Looking at getting a Sam yang or Seneca Dragon Claw 50 cal air gun .
I have looked and looked and can not find what the max pellet/bullet length it will take
Any actual user info on this gun would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
I’ll be watching this thread! I looked at the 50 cal but always wanted the sam yang 45 just because it shoots flatter.
Not sure about max length but what I've read the air venturi 185gr and 210gr are what's recommended the stock 50 with a 225gr was hitting 679fps for 230fpe you could have Will Piatt tune it for more power, a friend of mine has the 909 45 that Will tuned for him getting 300fpe shooting a Mr Hollowpoint 185gr at around 850fps.
^^^that's what I remember. Users got their 45 cal Sam Yangs cooking pretty good and the guns are half price of the the newer guns. They also have some since wood and look like an actual gun vs the new "goofy" looking modern air guns imo. They are also threaded for a supresor which you dont have to buy a tax stamp for because it's not considered " a gun".
I agree with everything you said, except the last sentence; ANYTHING wearing a "muffler" better have a tax stamp for it or you could get in trouble with the "ignorant and uninformed". The Europeans have it all over us when it comes to "Moderators".Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripplebeards
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/are-...ed-nfa-weapons
It's completely legal to have an air gun or muzzel loader with a "muffler" and not have to get a tax stamp. You Just have to do your homework. I'm sure you would have to make your own I'm guessing since no one is probably going to sell a supressor without applying for a tax stamp first.
Looks like the muzzel loader isn't legal in California, Massachusetts, and New Jersey. So yes not every state...
https://www.range365.com/maxim-50-no...all-50-states/
https://youtu.be/D_WfYFFK8uM
A Sam Yang should be able to load more projectile than you would ever want to load, or be able to make use of.
For a point of reference, I can fit 400+grainers that are 1.38 inches long into the loading port of my .45 SamYang909.
I stand corrected; it appears that I CAN put a "moderator" on my Avenger and be legal. I like that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripplebeards
I think you might wish to check that a bit more, especially putting a "moderator" with screw on threads to the end of a barrel. The screw on is that part that is sticky since it can be moved from rifle to rifle there is nothing to prevent it being used on a regular rifle. The Maxim 50 "gets by" due to being "made to" the end of the barrel and not removable. The ATF is pretty picky about stuff like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparky45
The ONLY way you can "legally" made a "moderator" is with a tax stamp. It's the moderator itself that's considered the NFA item with it's own serial number and model number as required by law. You might wish to read that ATF.gov link above again - it's dated April, 2020 so not that old and clearly says not legal.
Haven't looked into the issue but almost every Gamo air gun available has some form of moderator and use the quiet level of shooting as one of their advertising items. I don't know if they are welded or detachable in some manner.
My understanding, is that any moderator that can be attached to a firearm that can also reduce the noise by even a single decibel is not legal without a stamp. I believe the threading used on the SamYangs is different than that used on firearms silencers, but I could be wrong.
As mentioned before......DO YOUR HOMEWORK.