I picked up a Henry steel case hardened in 45-70. I called Henry and the guy stated that any load a Marlin 1895 will handle, the henry will also. He told me to stay away from 458 mag pressures.
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I picked up a Henry steel case hardened in 45-70. I called Henry and the guy stated that any load a Marlin 1895 will handle, the henry will also. He told me to stay away from 458 mag pressures.
I've got an H012 Big Boy Steel in 44 Mag and I shoot near max W296 loads all the time.
I find it a really reasonable load.
I know this is an old thread, but I read a lot about coal restricting some from using heavy bullets in the Henry. Just want to say that my Henry Steel .45 colt loves and feeds flawlessly my cast Lee c452-300 boolits with a hefty load of both H110 and 2400.
These rounds measure 1.630 when crimped in the first groove from the bottom of the bullet.
Not gonna get such an answer from a manufacturer. Way to much liability. They say yea, then someone tries 454 loads in one and it blows up, they will be looking for a lawyer.
Thanks for bringing this back to light. I was thinking of a 45lc Henry as the Rossi I have is nice but I just don't trust it for heavy loads with the 300gr boolits and I have a Lee mould of that weight. From my looking at Henry's, ok..caressing them at the lgs, I feel very confident that they are built to take about whatever you can much like a Blackhawk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeker
Ok I have been wondering this myself, this is great news!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeker
Years ago I was going to buy a companion caliber levergun, the more I read, the more problems and issues I discovered with the different brands and models, what will feed, what does not like to feed, this is only one side of the coin but it's a critical side.
The other side, would be the chamber and groove dimensions (which vary a LOT between mfgr's different models). It's obvious that there is a decent amount freebore in the throat, *IF* you are sizing to .452" so if it feeds the loads in the photo I am attaching, this will be my choice when it comes time to click the buy now..
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I still have yet to make a levergun purchase, I am still learning of the many things to avoid! I learned more about leverguns just lurking than I would ever have learned by buying one and then jumping through the hoops necessary to get it to work well.
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Originally Posted by DougGuy
Those are indeed the ones. I tl mine in 60/40 2x. I shoot them in my Henry and my NM Blackhawk sized to .452, coal 1.630
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I have loaded a 270 grain WFN on top of good dose of WW296 for years the gun will handle anything the 44 mag version will. I am using a longer bullet so deeper seating and run 22 grains of 296 with that 270 grain gas checked boolit. Hits like hammer is very accurate. Great rifles that Henry makes I have one if their Original rifles for mild loads that is an absolutely hoot to shoot and play around with. That rifle is only mild loads. But the Big Boy brass can take some heavy loaded 45 colt. Yes I segregate them so no mistakes can be made and I color code the rounds so they are not mixed up.
I see there is a new model out that is all plated for anti rust. Available in 45, 44 and 357. Not cheap but great truck gun for sure !
My three 45COLT Marlins will not feed this bullet, until I seat UNDER 1.600!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seeker
This is seated to your OAL (Works well in my BLK Hawks) But will not in three different Marlins.
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CW
The "if it will handle a 44M, it will handle any 45LC load" has a problem. The problem is barrel wall thickness. Just look at the muzzles of Marlin 1894 rifles chambered for 357M, 44M, and 45LC. Pick each of them up and notice the difference in weight. Even the Marlin 1895 won't handle the same peak pressures in 45-70 as in 444M. The outside of the barrels is the same so the hole in the receiver is the same. But there is a difference in what's left if the hole is .452" instead of .429", so the total amount of steel is different. You're not comparing a 45 to a 44, you're comparing a 45 to a 43.
I contacted Henry before i bought the Henry Big Boy X in 45 colt.
They told me that rifle can handle + P loads all day long, but.....
Using leads over 250 grains may have to be loaded single shot.
The action may not cycle the longer leads.
Yes.... Mine handles Underwoods 250 gr.+P ammo with no troubles.... 😁😁😁👍👍
I reckon thats a better response than you would get from most manufacturers !Quote:
Originally Posted by tazman
He's tellin ya
1)it will take the +P pressure
2) twistrate is too slow for boolits over 270grain (they wont feed anyhow)
want more oomph? buy a 45/70
I have a Henry BB Steel in 45 Colt and it has a 1 - 16 twist I have personally measured it.
When I bought it new around 2016 the 44 mag BB had a 1-38 twist , don’t know if they still are or if that has changed.
Jedman
This is an old thread I know, however Buffalo Bore often states what firearms are suitable for their ammo & they offer heavy loads.
When Henry came out with the single shot guns, they made those with 44 mag barrel with twist rate of 1-20. At some point after that, Henry [quietly] switched all there 44 mag guns to 1-20 twist. I believe that was about 3 years ago, there is at least one thread here about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedman
I bought the Henry Big Boy x after i talked to them.
They said the big boy versions can handle any factory + P ammo.
Including Buffalo Bore, and Underwood.
But they may not cycle ammo over 265 grain.
As far as higher powered reloads????
I'm not a reloader so didn't ask on those.