It was begging for it, so..............

Hey, yeahbub, thanks for the input!! You have posted exactly the 'secret method' I have used with some success: patches must be however long they must be to produce however many 'wraps' to actually work. It's all trial and error (my Post #4). Happy to have confirmation that .30's can be 8mms as noted in my Post #6. It'll be literally months before we here get to actually shoot this '.338' lot. Anyone?? Bueller?

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Originally Posted by barrabruce

I tried a smaller cores and believe I wasn't getting a consistent patch departure from the muzzle.

Maybe do a 2x wrap and when dry slice the pp patch 4x around the diameter so it can shed off the core like with petals.
The second 2x wrap should be cut by the rifling.

Maybe patched to the opposite direction of rifling so it unwinds may help some as well.

A cardboard wad under the boolit may help keep it together on the way through the bore.

Iv'e done this with making shot gun wads. rolling a tube of paper and slicing so it would behave like a plastic one.

With the tube uncut it would shoot like a solid slug and blow pellets everywhere when it hit something like a cut shell effect.

I ended up with just a 1x roll of plastic or cardboard for the cushioning effect of the wad column in the end.

So maybe a 1x wrap of thick paper ala chase and a 2x wrap of thin for bonding purposes.

Ha.
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Good idea! I'm wanting to patch for my 410.

But slicing the inner wraps sounds like a great idea, even just cutting petals into the fore section of the inner wrap might be of benefit. Or even just slicing petals into the finished nose section.

Another thought is to use a tough paper and toughen it further with glue so that it forms a permanent jacket. That will work with slow to moderate loads where the air drag isn't insanely high.

https://s19.postimg.org/skusrosn3/Untitled.jpg

This one was a subsonic normal fit boolit with a soft-ish core. I did not expect the patch to stay on, let alone through the catch medium.
https://s19.postimg.org/kgcfdaxen/DSCF8751.jpg

I have always wanted the made-up rounds to 'feed through the magazine', so, starting with an unsized case, there's never been one that wasn't crimped in the LEE FCD to hold the patched boolit firmly in place. Mebbeso that's a 'secret'???

My seated patched boolits are started by hand then finished in the press. To pull them out a pair of pliers is required and the core gets ruined. I lube the patched boolit immediately prior to seating and the lube soaks away, leaving the patch pretty dry. These feed from the magazine just fine.

303Guy: when and if I lube, I do the same as you, and all else you just posted is my 'normal' too.

BUMP! Anybody??

HABCAN

I think you have some folks sitting and shaking their heads. What you are doing isn’t supposed to work; at least according to the “ standard operating procedures “ of paper patching. I have had some success following the s.o.ps but I’m certainly not able to comment other than to encourage your efforts and let us know of the results. Very interesting post.

wmitty: I was hoping some Member in the Sunny South might pick up on this and move us all a bit forward. It'll be a few months yet before I can get out and shoot: besides being some little handicapped, there's still about 4' of snow drifts in my yard here at present.