Anyone use H110 with these light projectiles? I use Unique for just about everything, but wanted a load closer to true magnum feel...a little more snap. I bought a pound of H110 from Academy just because it was there.
Printable View
Anyone use H110 with these light projectiles? I use Unique for just about everything, but wanted a load closer to true magnum feel...a little more snap. I bought a pound of H110 from Academy just because it was there.
Years ago, there was a sporting goods store closing and they kept reducing prices until all that was left was the
weird stuff nobody liked.
When Hornady 110s got down to $3. a box, I got all 10-12 of them.
I loaded them for my Marlin CB, I think with Blue Dot.
They worked fine, but didn't have the penetration of the heavier bullets.
At 100 or a little more yards, they didn't go through a steel 55 gallon barrel but 158s did.
The Hornady book lists a max. of 19.9 for their 125 gr. bullets with it.
I wouldn't have a problem going a bit under that using the H110.
[QUOTE ] The Hornady book lists a max. of 19.9 for their 125 gr. bullets with it.
I wouldn't have a problem going a bit under that using the H110.[/QUOTE]
That’s my dilemma. I can’t find any “published” data for the 110g projectile using the H110 powder.
Some powders do not perform well with light bullets I think that may be the case H110 and 296
Try the lighter bullet with the load for the 125 grain bullet. It won't hurt and it will either show whether or not H110 is OK with the lighter bullet. 110 vs 125 grains is not a large difference and it is in the right direction to be safe.
I've tried some 110s, and the feel compared to the 125's isn't super different. Very impressive fireball for sure. Occasional smell of cooked forearm hair. (/s) Ultimately I settled on just using 158's to keep things simple. The 125's and 110's were a bit more percussive, and I remember the recoil being less, but the barrel would whip a little more dramatically.
Hogdgon's web site has a Hornady 110gr XTP with a starting load of 22grs of H110 with a max of 23grs
https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol
I don't know if Hodgdon is still openly stating that H110 and W296 are the same but if you compare their load data both powders have identical performance.
I dont like using H110 with bullets lighter than 158 grains in .357 mag. With a 110 grain bullet, it'll definitely be a "Shock and Awe" load. I'd be afraid that shooting a fair amount of them might do some forcing cone erosion.
The most accurate handgun load I ever had was a Speer 110 gr. JHP with an insane amount of W296.
Out of a 8 3/8" S&W 686 with 4X scope I would often get 5 shot 100 yd. groups under 1 1/2". Problem was, the other chamber would always put the 6th round 2" outside the group. Got frustrated and sold the gun in a fit of pique and regretted it ever since.
Other than the accuracy in several guns, the only practical use I ever found for the load (due to its explosive expansion and lack of penetration) was shooting snapping turtles. I stalked the local creeks looking for 10-15 lb. snappers and soft shell turtles. A direct hit would take the head completely off and a near miss would stun them so they could be retrieved with no problem.
I was young and dumb at the time... don't recall for sure how I came up with the load but, even though I still truly love the Smith L frame guns, I have not tried to duplicate that load.
So, yes, you can successfully load 110 JHP's with H110/W296 but other than the novelty of it, I don't see why you would want to.
Jerry
giant fireball !
H110 is meant to be fired with heavy bullets.
Lighter than normal bullets will result in incomplete burning of the powder.
Maybe that's telling you something. In any case, you're going the wrong direction regarding bullet weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by 468
Don
Thanks for all the input. Seems like the long term solution is to go with a heavier bullet with the H110...which I will do. I have less than 200 110g projectiles to send downrange. I just wanted a snappy and flashy load to shoot every so often.
My main feedstock is the cast 158g SWC, for which I use Unique.
Maybe load the 110’s up in 38 Special cases and give it a try...?
I haven’t loaded any, yet, but I plan on using 125-grain XTP’s in 38 Special with some 2400 or AA9.
I currently load 180-grain XTP HP’s with around 12.0 gr of AA9 in .357 mag. for my 1894C.
R/Griff
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenton
NEVER under load H-110 powder!
I loaded 50 110gr XTPs with 296 just to have to blow up Gatorade bottles and skunked beers with my Rossi 92 and Ruger SP101 every now and then. They seemed to burn clean but shot about 6-8 inches high at 20 yards out of either firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by 468
Fun to show off but my 50 rounds lasted probably 6 years. 99% of my shooting in a 357 is done with either standard pressure 38special or 38+p.
I don't understand the consequences of under loading 110/296 I suspect squibs , but I know the old winchester manuals for 296 showed one charge weight for each of the loads they showed with warnings to not change any components and not to reduce I followed directions , they of course were all WW components .
I shot a lot of 44 mag with 24 or 25 grains of 296 under WW 240 grain jhp or WW 240 GC SWC and they did all shoot like factory loads in my mod 29 the WW GC SWC was very accurate for about 20 rounds and then down hill from there due to leading. As 296 started showing up in other manuals they showed start and maximum loads like they do with most powders but a narrower range between start and max. I have also heard a lot of reports of throat erosion with light bullet loads but have never experienced it , with magnum loads I load full weight to heavy bullets .
I would beware flame cutting with that combo...........
What is “flame cutting”?
And thanks for all the input/ comments...
Hot gas cutting into your top strap.
Don