Have owned & carried many S&W 39 & variations for years, but am seeing that Glock now seems to be most preferred. Have tried and just do not care for many of the Colt based 45acp semies. Is Glock best choice?
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Have owned & carried many S&W 39 & variations for years, but am seeing that Glock now seems to be most preferred. Have tried and just do not care for many of the Colt based 45acp semies. Is Glock best choice?
They always go bang when I pull the trigger. Not the prettiest, but they work, work work.
I spent some time trying to make a very low recoil round for a Glock and it took some effort to get a round that would not cycle the Glock 19X. If your rounds are made with published loads and they are the correct shape, they will work.
I don't like Glock's. I think a Glock puts cast bullet shooters at a disadvantage. But nobody would ever question the reliability of Glock handguns.
SIG-Enough said!!!!!!!!!!
I used to say I would never own a glock , well I put aside preconceived ides and bought a 9mm , and the rest have just grown since then , I own 1911 I see little to no difference in handling and shooting , I use wheelguns single and double action and they all seem to fit . Glock puts no cast shooter to a disadvantage , I use cast exclusively , there are some jacketed bullets in this house but all I shoot is cast from all semi auto or wheelguns , My glocks do not know the difference nor do they care , go check out the semi auto selection at your local store and see how they feel , buy what feels right for you and use your own expertise when selecting what make model or caliber .
I have 9mm 40s&w 45gap and 45acp in glocks and as a reliable firearm that shoots cast they work fine.
I can afford anything and carry a Glock. It is tge most reliable semi-auto I have ever owned.
Glocks are reliable, fairly rust resistant, and homely enough to where I don’t worry about sweating on one when I carry in hot weather.
I got rid of all of my Glocks, but they would go bang every time I pulled the trigger.
When I got my CZ 75 SP 01 settled down to my handloads I can say the same thing about it.
I do not think anyone really knows what the “most reliable” semi automatic pistol is.
There is opinion, there is the manufacturer’s word for it, and there is reality. Hard to separate them sometimes.
I will observe I have a number of pretty reliable makes of auto pistols. But all are subject to breakage eventually or user error, so reliability is relative to that no matter who makes it.
browning hi power seems to be reliable.
There is more to consider than just a name. The grip angle is somewhat different between the S&W and the Glock. There are many other very reliable guns out there.
I own a couple of Springfield XDm series pistols. As long as I am shooting factory ammunition or jacketed reloads, they have never failed. The only time I had issues was with some old reloads made for a pistol with a large chamber. The tighter chambers didn't like them.
When I used cast reloads that were sized for the XDm chamber, no failures with any nose shape or powder charge.
There is a published video that was on the XDm site that showed an XDm 10mm pistol go through 10,000 rounds just to see if the pistol would hold up. It did with no failures.
I would call that very reliable.
I find my XDm pistols to be as accurate as any handgun I shoot with the possible exception of mt S&W K frame Target Masterpiece.
XD Tactical .45 and S&W Shield 9mm put slugs down the barrel every time I pull the trigger.
Every Glock I owned has been ultra reliable. My M&P S&W 45 is just as good. I can't remember any of them jamming, failing to feed, etc.
My Glocks seem to be very corrosion resistant. I have never had one fail to fire. They seem accurate enough and are very easy to work on. I wish that I like them more.
I have carried and shot a browning h-p for the last 15 years with no problems at all.
yugo M57 tokarev works every time, has a colt 1903 based design, so much like a 1911, inexpensive, quality made, and indestructable. also shoots thru just about anything.
i would go with the venerable 1911 military issue type semi-auto pistols. The pistols outlasted all of the other semi's with the longest service life. The Tokarevs are a close second too. Interestingly enough after watching numerous videos of people abusing HiPoint semi-auto pistols, I would say that those ought to rank up there high on the list of reliable pistols too.
As long as you are picking something from the "big three" kind of deal with polymer frame gun, you are almost always going to have a very solid, reliable gun. Glock, S&W, Springfield, etc. Yes there are lots more to chose from especially if you include metallic frames. A good frame of reference is what guns are commonly used by military and police. The Glock us a keystone figure in it all, you really can't argue with their product, their reputation needs no explanation. The M&P series is of equal terms. It and many others haven't been around as long but again, their service history needs no explanation.The same can be said for other companies so it really can be boiled down to what attributes are most desirable to you. Me personally, I like the M&P's more. The grip angle & shape feel better to me and the trigger is better, excellent with an Apex in it. Just a more svelte gun. They are tough as hell, I turn an M&P 9L Performance Center into a USPSA race gun that I used for about 4 years shooting very hot 9mm. This gun was pushed far beyond its designed usage. Rental Glocks at ranges have found a Glock slide lasts about 30,000rd average before they crack. Thats a ton of ammo, far more than most would ever shoot. My M&P took about 50,000rds of crazy hot ammo before it cracked. Then I Tig welded it and shot it till the barrel was shot out, adding another 15,000-20,000 on it. Way beyond the intended usage. Solid, tough guns. Ive also been very impressed with the Canik TP9 family of guns. They are affordably priced and really solid guns right out the box. They do offer some higher end versions too. I had a basic SF model that had 7000-10,000rds on. Currently my SFX has been my Production class gun, now Carry Optics, it has about 25,000rds on it. The TP9's have probably the BEST box stock triggers and with a light clean & polish they are really good!
Really any big reputable brand these days has something that fills the bill. Do a little research on your considered choices and pick something that has been around for a while.
Ruger P series; my favorite is my P97 .45 ACP.
It is amazing there are so many reliable semi automatic pistols available. I remember many old timers saying they would never carry one as the revolver was more reliable.
You went and did it.. another "Best-Most reliable" part in the title of the thread. You will now get 50-100 different answers on what peoples favorite pistol is. I'll answer this fast. There is no best most reliable pistol. All seem to have reputations for being good and or working and that is all you need. People buy according to the features they want on their particular hand gun. Some guns fit peoples hands better than others which prompts people to buy. Some people like a double stack magazine and others favor a single stack. Some like a hammer less model and others don't.
Its all just as simple as you buy what you want what fits your particular needs and that is it. You really don't need someone telling you a Glock 17 is best or a 1911 is best. Just audition the guns (most good shops have guns you can rent so you can try out what your interested in) and make up your own mind based on the features you deem to be important to you. ....my opinion.
I have a Ruger SR1911 I bought new in late 2012 that I have 10,500 rounds through without so much as a hiccup! The most reliable 1911 I have ever owned!
There are a lot of reliable semi auto pistol available today. Most of my 1911's run reliably. My Sig's run flawlessly. My Glock has been 100% reliable. I probably had the only Browning HiPower in existence that was not reliable. My S&W M-59 was not dependable.
My carry and beside pistol is a Glock. Its not as much fun to shoot as my 1911's.
Glock is definitely well known for being very reliable. I only own one (G20) and it hasnt had a hiccup for the ~2000 rounds that have gone through it. Thats not a lot of rounds but I still trust it because of their reputation.
The only semi-auto I have had trouble with that wasnt ammo or magazine related was a Sig 320 in .45. Not my gun. But a coworker had me look at it after two trips back to Sig for warranty and a trip to the local "gunsmith". Turned out to be the extractor was waaaaay too tight. Seems like a bit of a fluke for the 320s though with how many are out there in the wild running perfectly fine with no issues.
I also have an ongoing experiment with the red-headed stepchild of my gunsafe. The S&W Sigma SW40VE. For about 10 years I have only cleaned the barrel/bore and added more oil/grease after each range trip. Its a sludge-fest inside of that gun and it just keeps running. Its fired over 10k rounds like this. I also have a 9mm upper for it that feeds fine using the .40 mags and it eats everything off of its plate every time it gets loaded.
In my opinion almost any newly manufactured semi-auto based on a proven design will be reliable.
There can always be problems based on a manufacturing defect or possibly a new type of design but I believe those to be a fairly small percentage based on the total number of firearms being produced each year.
I don't know that it is the best but my Sig 1911 never skipped a beat
Pistols preference is a more personal choice as to how it fits the hand, operates (safety features, etc.), and pleases the eye than just reliability. Reliability is a prime concern, however, especially to those among us whose lives depend on their operating every time they are put into use. While I'll put reliability over "personality" in pistols I expect to protect me and my family (and friends), I prefer pistols that "feel" at home in my hand and are an extension of my senses. While the Glock has become one of the most used pistols for most law enforcement agencies (large and small), I believe most of their popularity is because they are the simplest to use and train others to shoot. Be advised that most police departments do employ an "armorer" to maintain their firearms and send many of their officers to Glock training courses; none-the-less, the Glock pistol is probably among the top 10 most reliable pistols on the market today.
I personally prefer the CZ75B or CZP07 for additional safety features and handling qualities. CZ pistols did pass the rigid NATO tests for reliability and function where only a few manufactures would subject their products. Until the Glock 4 series came out I felt the Glock handled like a "brick", in my hand at least; plus, I did not like the idea of only having a small tab as the only safety devise and my trigger finger holstering a pistol already "half cocked" with a round in the chamber! (The Springfield XD, at least, has an additional grip safety to prevent accidental discharges!). Before I get hate mail from all the law enforcement folks who have been indoctrinated on Glocks (my indoc was with 1911's), understand I'll concede that your choice is valid if that's your "Huckleberry". We are very fortunate to have many pistols on the market to chose from that are just as reliable as the Glock, while satisfying the shooter and collector. My .02
What Kaiser said +1.
I carry a Shield or M&P most of the time but laugh if you want. The only semi I've never had jam with anything is a HiPoint.
Truth be told, any semi from a major manu like Glock, SW, Sig, Tanfaglio, CZ etc will and should work for you. The only one I ever gave up on were 2 Kel Tec's
I love Glocks, but the .45 acp versions are pretty big in the grip while the S&W M&P series feel better, as do the XD series. Both are absolutely reliable. It all comes down to what fits your hand the best.
If you are talking 9mm, then the Glocks are wonderful, especially the Gen 5 models with no finger grooves and adjustable backstraps. Most folks who complain about Glocks feeling like a brick haven't handled one in 30 years. Unless they are talking about the .45 and 10mm versions; those are still pretty fat.
As kaiser stated Glock is one of the most use LE pistols in the nation. One reason (beside being reliable, easy to shoot and repair) is because Glock gives them to LE departments at a very attractive cost. Most departments have armorers that maintain duty & off duty firearms. And almost every department has a very short list of approved duty & off duty firearms. It only makes sense from economic and training perspectives to limit choices to a few pistols. Imagine if the armorers had to stock parts for several manufacturer’s pistols and get certified to repair all of them.
Over 90% of the LE officers I talk to carry Glocks because that is their only option.
Don't tell my glocks that. Ive shot well over a 100k through glocks 99 percent of it cast. that's said are they the best? Cant answer that. Id say its a toss up between glocks and M&Ps and the new sigs for reliability. There all good as are a few others like berretta storms, rugers ect. in my opinion if you have to put one on top its the old steel sigs. I have more glocks then any other but im close in M&Ps and especially with the 2.0 versions with there better trigger and the fact they feel better in my hand then a glock they are probably the best bang for the buck in a black gun at least for me. Best bang for the buck in a black gun at my house was a new 9mm shield for 225 bucks from psa and a glock 22 police trade in with night sights that was like new for 300 bucks with 4 glock mags.
Groo here
If you treat and feed them correctly most modern autos work well.
You will get a ruff one out of the factory once in a while but for the most part they work.
The biggest problem is the ammo.[ 9mm mostly]
The further away from standard , the worse it gets.
More modern rounds seem to hold standard better [aka non millitary rounds]
The only mill spec round that holds is 45acp [specs carved in stone] and the russian rounds .
I was that person for a long time. I handled a few when they first became available and hated the feel. I never touched one again until about a year ago.
I must say the the new versions are much better than the originals. They also have a reputation for both accuracy and reliability.
I still don't like the grip angle but I could get used to it fairly quickly. I just have too much invested in the pistols I currently own to replace them with Glocks.
I have fired almost 10,000 various reloads through my 69C Hi Power with neither a failure to load or fire. How is that for reliability?
I've only owned 2 pistols that I can say were totally reliable with any load or bullet shape and staked my life on when I was a young LEO first was a Ruger P90 in 45 that thing was a tank and would feed empty brass hand cycling it from the mag . The other was a Glock 19
I'm gonna say I am the "Best-Most reliable" person to comment on which semi-auto handgun is "Best-Most reliable" ...LOL
Ok, I just had a George Herter's moment, please forgive me.
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From the early 1990s until now, I've owned many different brands and models of semi-auto handguns. CZ, Ruger, 1911, Magnum Research, Taurus PT24/7, S&W, Browning, Sig, Hi-Point, AMT Auto-Mag, Glock, Springfield, ect...ect.
Yeah, I am pretty sure I am not alone in this claim, and others may well have much more experience than me.
With that said, The Ruger P-series guns seemed the "Best-Most reliable" out of the box, in regards to all aspects, but most especially for not being picky about ammo projectile types...which seems to be the Achilles Heel of most semi-auto handguns.
I've sold all my Ruger P-series handguns that I had owned, one of which I used in a pistol league, when I was downsizing. But after a year or so after that auction, Ruger came out with a model 9e, it was so reasonably priced and looked and felt the same as the P-series guns, so I bought one...and it is like all the P-series guns I previously owned, "Best-Most reliable" !!!
I once had a m1921/m400 Astra that would fire 9mm Largo, 9mm Luger, and .380 mixed in the magazine reliably until I replaced the tired recoil spring. I bushed the chamber for 9mm Luger and carried on. My Marine nephew owns it now and it’s still accurate and runs through jhp like it was made for them. I don’t recall ever seeing that tubular wonder pistol jam!
You know, I'd forgotten my first Semi Auto which was Ruger P-85. Bought used, it rattled, wasn't that accurate (or I wasn't, I prefer to blame it on the pistol) and never jammed on anything from commercial stuff to steel Russian junk. Great pistol.
Cops in a local small town went from a GP100 to a P-90 maybe?, P series anyways to probably a Glock by now. Boy, sure wish I had that GP100 back.
I think that all the opinions above have some reason, it is good to comment on weapons that one owns and uses. Before repeating what is read on the network.
I own a G17 that buys it for a business opportunity. When I used it, I fell in love with it, until it was the most reliable weapon I have today. I also have her Austrian cousin, the Steyr M9, but I haven't fired as many shots with her as with the G17.
Before them, I have had and used a Browning HP35, and I have to say that it has shot well everything I have put in the mag.
Ruger P-90 in .45, has never failed to fire, will gobble up any ammo it seems like! Mixed up in the mag, hardball, cast , hollow point it will feed and fire, and eject!! Just my opinion