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Another SHOT show came and went, and hear are the announcements I wanted to hear, but probably never will:
- Savage Reintroduces the Model 99 Lever Action
- Remington's New 5mm Remington Magnum Rifle
- Remington Brings Back the .30 AR in Its R-15
- Ruger's New 77/256 Bolt Action in .256 Winchester Magnum
- First Look at Springfield Armory's New Build M1 Garand
- H&R Handi-Rifles Back in Production
Anyhow, I am sure many of you have your own list or would add to mine.
I would love to see Savage bring back the 99.
The 99 is my favorite lever...
Here's an 1899 in 303 savage just for fun.
https://i.imgur.com/ti0HRPj.jpg
Lets add this: 1. Marlin tightens the twist rates in 44mag 1894 rifles
Rotary magazines are expensive to make - same reason we will never see the likes of my Mannlicher Schoenauer again...
Ruger's New 77/25-20 wcf & 77/32-20 wcf
Winchester doing limited release of EVERY caliber ever bearing the Winchester name! Yes, yes I know that they worry about older guns and pressures... But just one run??? 351? 35wcf? Pretty please?
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I think CNC machining and investment casting would bring down what used to be the high costs before that was available. When I ran a HAAS milling machine center, it didn't care if it was interpolating a curve, a radius, a circle or drilling a hole. It all costed the same. If Ruger can (and they can and do) cast turbine blades, they could cast a rotary magazine follower, I am sure.Quote:
Rotary magazines are expensive to make - same reason we will never see the likes of my Mannlicher Schoenauer again...
Also, gold inlays are expensive on guns, but people are still willing to pay for them.
It would be nice to see Mossberg or Savage make a left had bolt rifle that uses AR magazines . It would be a fun range toy for cast but neither one will listen to me . :-(
Jack
Edit to add , Come to think of it , it would be nice to see CZ or Steyr make a left hand .22 magnum .
Ruger No.1S in 358 Win, 444 Marlin, 25-35 Win, 357 Rem MAXimum. Also same in 22” barrel full length stock RSI version.
I need Ruger to bring back the Red Label shotgun in 12, 20, and 28 gauge. Make the 16 and 410 for a follow on run.
Smith & Wesson to add the 10mm to its M&P line of poly wonders.
Someone making a leveraction 22 Hornet.
Henry making a SxS shotgun in 20, 28 and 410.
Remington XP100 in .300 Blackout with a 1-10" twist. Oh yeah, a pump action 45-70 based on the 20 gauge 870!
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Ruger 77/327 Federal Magnum! Ruger LCP II 32ACPQuote:
Originally Posted by square butte
Not likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by murf205
Probably a better option (or an additional one) would be to make them in the discontinued Ruger lever actions, along with the 22 Hornet that someone else mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by square butte
Oh, and lose the silly barrel band and put a better designed WALNUT stock on it.
I am afraid you are correct, but for the life of me, I cannot understand why they have chosen to stay with the leisurely 38" twist of the 44/40. If someone in the industry could enlighten us as to why they don't, please do so. I know Brian Pearce at Handloader and Rifle magazine, has repeatedly lobbied Marlin to make a 1:20" change but no luck yet. I would buy one right now if they would but somehow, I don't think Marlin/Remlin's profits are hinging on my purchases alone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hickory
It would cost Marlin no more to produce a 1-20 twist barrel than the 1-38 twist barrel, I don't understand their bullheadedness either!Quote:
Originally Posted by murf205
It's because SAAMI specified rifle and handgun twist rates. Member companies must comply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hickory
Most 44 magnum handguns have a 1-18 3/4" twist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tatume
Why would a handgun be so drastically different from a rifle.
And why would a handgun have a .429-430 groove diameter and a rifle have a larger groove diameter?
If that is the case, then somebody needs to tell Henry and Ruger that they need to comply because their 44 mags/ spl barrels are 1:20Quote:
Originally Posted by Tatume
I like new stuff as in completely different, out of a box, never seen that before type. Sometimes its good, sometimes its bad. Right now I would love to get my hands on the Alien from Laugo Arms. Not a design you will find anywhere else for sure. If its dependable I would get one just for the cool engineering factor.
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Ruger decides that QUALITY is just as important (or more so) as QUANTITY!
Marlin does make a 44 cal barrel with a .429-.430 bore and 1 in 20" twist, but it's chambered for 444 Marlin. I sent Marlin customer service an e-mail asking for a similar barrel that would fit my 1894 so I could shoot the Lee 305gr cast bullet with the slightly concave wide nose in my rifle. The reply was only thanks and that the idea and reason would be sent up the corporate ladder.
Henry claims its box magaxzine precision model could be made in any caliber people wanted within head size limits. The description reads a lot like a Browning BLR with rotating bolt, box magazine and rack and pinion lever/bolt mechanism.
"Ruger decides that QUALITY is just as important (or more so) as QUANTITY!" Amen! And a few others that seem to think that close enough is close enough.
No more!Quote:
Originally Posted by Norske
After Remington took over the twist went to 1-38.
My dream -
I'd like to see RossiUSA introduce their new Customer Interaction Center. A team solely dedicated to interacting directly with customers. Answering the phones and emails! Dealing with service issues one-on-one to fix our guns. Listening one-on-one to our requests and suggestions.
Basically, tear down the wall that they have between them and us! It's like the door is locked and the doorbell doesn't work.
No more!Quote:
Originally Posted by Norske
After Remington took over the twist went to 1-38.
I just checked the Marlin site and they do list the 444 in a 1-20 twist.
It probably wouldn't sell, but I've always thought that a solid bottom/no magazine small bolt action 9mm rifle would be handy as a step- up trainer rifle for kids and adults alike. Teach precision over leaving a pile of brass( or steel) on the ground the fastest. Heck, I'd buy one for Turkey hunting.
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I have been hoping for such a rifle as well. I would even take a single shot chambered in 9mm but, alas, no one makes any such thing. I can't afford to go custom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas by God
Even a lite weight 5.7x28 semi-auto rifle would make a good little garden gun.
Tex - got a Bob's single load mag for the BO (223 mag), really like it. Shove one in the slot, drop the bolt and fire. Lock back so just repeat! So a 9mm version gets you there.
Picture a Marlin 15Y, Remington 510 or 580 in 9mm. That's what I want. I could go AR type or stub a Topper( again), but I dont want to. Just a little blue steel and wood bolt action rifle.
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Some bizarre discrepancy dating back to 1800's cartridges. Thankfully Henry has seen the light, and is now selling their rifles with .429" grooves and 1:20 twist barrels. Everyone else clings to the old .431" and 1:38" twist for no good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hickory
I also want to see H&R to come back. It hasn't been sold as far as I know, so there is no reason it can't happen. Or maybe selling to a competent company would be the best thing.
One I wanted to add, and one I believe is coming sooner or later, is the Ruger GP100 in 41 magnum.
Of the common revolver manufacturers, meaning Ruger, S&W, Colt, Charter, I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Of all those, Ruger is putting out the highest quality handguns right now. You have to get into the $1000+ semi-custom guns to beat them. That's just my opinion, I keep buying Ruger, and I keep getting good ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholst55
The Ruger 77/357 in 9mm!!
Dito: H&R Handi-Rifles Back in Production
Announcements I Wanted to Hear at the 2020 SHOT Show:
"CNN reports Andrew Cuomo falls into a running woodchipper."
"Nancy Pelosi sobers up, accidently sponsors bill benefiting Americans."
"scientists discover corona virus genetic package can be manipulated to cure pediatric leukemia"
"savage returns to manufacturing the 99 with a rotary magazine"
Industry wide understanding that LOP at 14" is too long for the mass population. 13 1/2" LOP becomes the median standard.
I would like to see that one as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatnhappy