Pretty cool lil video. I've heard about the tubbs nose ring tool from some LR guys but never really seen much of it in use. This was a pretty cool study on it
https://youtu.be/ZbsDIeA4g-w?si=0bDPkeWOi9r9_e70
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Pretty cool lil video. I've heard about the tubbs nose ring tool from some LR guys but never really seen much of it in use. This was a pretty cool study on it
https://youtu.be/ZbsDIeA4g-w?si=0bDPkeWOi9r9_e70
Well those tools are not cheap , but it seemed to do what he wanted , I was hoping to see more of the side by side buffalo style pig hunt .
Thumbnail photo looks like the tool was severely overused.
He tested shallow and deep cut in the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry54
I enjoyed the video. He slaughtered some sounders!
Interesting but dang that tool is expensive. Add $50 for the caliber specific cutter on to the cost below.
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You can buy a lot of quality hunting bullets with known / predictable expansion for $600! I would like to see more about this but for now I am not impressed. Bullets going thru big hogs and others tumbling or exploding with no exit wound in the smaller hogs? Sounds inconsistent. Good hunting bullets should expand but still stay together.
Decades ago I made a jig out of wood where you could put 5-6 22lr cartridges in then file the tip of the round nose off to make a flat nose. There was a huge improvement on small game. Others were doing the same with centerfire FMJ cartridges and filing the tip off. They also claimed they expanded well.
So now a rehash where you just score the tip? For $600? I think i will have to look for my jigs!
Guy said he has literal cases of this ammo he bought back when it was super cheap. And they go though a few 100 a night. Would be silly to not try and find some kinda use for all that stuff. Not a traditional usage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delkal
https://youtu.be/3w2KoUTIrZ4?si=d7_1zz0osoZbiLK2
I still think he should just sell the cases of FMJ and buy some proper soft point rounds. Depending on who made it he can get a good price for the older 7.62x39 FMJ then buy some real soft point rounds that would work better for hunting. There is not that much of a difference in price and he can get a lot of cases of suitable ammo before he hits $600.
The video was interesting though. But the bullet scorer is just not for me.
I think this can be done with a drill doctor 750x on the side port.
I found it interesting, but not anything I would invest in. -06
Looking at his other gear and knowing how much he has in most of it, it would be just another tool in his box. Akin to someone here just buying another mold. If it works for them and their needs, roll on.
If it helps em put pigs on the ground I'm all for it. You can't kill'em all, they are like fireants or cockroaches. Sure is fun tryin though.
That’s neat but expensive!
As broke farm teens we just ground the tips flat to expose lead on our 8x57 fmj bullets and went hunting!
We didn’t have a hog problem back then but they worked on deer and coyotes.
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That's what I would do if I had thousands of FMJ laying around - just grind off the tip and be done with it. I gave my son some modified GP11 for our 7.5 Swiss and he has shot quite a few hogs with that stuff - kills them dead as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas by God
In reality, you can ventilate a hog with most any FMJ and they will go off somewhere to die. A .223 through the body will go septic and kill one within a day or two.
The images above in post 1 are of hollow point?? It's a small opening.. but AFAIK..it counts as HP not fmj.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delkal
That occurred to me also. My grandfather told me that once in a while the lead core would blow out and leave the jacket in the barrel. Wouldn't that be exciting>Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas by God
Yeah maybe a few years back but now.... A few cases ...yeah no and this just the steel cases stuff https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2b3bd48859.jpg
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For $600 you could buy a mini lathe to do this and lots of other things as well.
I used to take a file and flatten the nose of FMJ military .30 carbine ammo.
At close range on a hog, it would turn inside out and shed the jacket.
I don't know what that did for accuracy, but at the ranges I was shooting them (in the same palmetto patch with them!) it didn't matter. :-P
That's what the Hornady 86gr .30 Mauser SPs do when loaded to 2500fps out of my .300blk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leslie Sapp
https://i.imgur.com/VfATZk0.jpg
Looked like lots of fun!
I have some Russian hp ammo. I've never shot anything with it yet...
I worked the gun shop scene from '92 to '05. At the start of that, we still had the Chinese stuff coming in, and with the '91 crash of the Soviet Union and its economy, the Russian surplus guns and ammo too. I think the cheapest I ever saw it was $90 for a thousand rounds, and $100-$125 was pretty much normal. Rest assured, a lot of folks stocked up heavy at those prices.
Considering that "hunting" and "pest control" are two very different things, I get where this guy is coming from. 7.62x39 ball will kill a 200# animal just fine (that's what it was designed for), but a quick kill not just for the camera, but to tell you it's OK to move on to the next one would be very helpful for the way they're playing the game.
Remember the scene in Lord of War where Nick Cage's arms-dealer character is imagining the "CHING!" of a cash register with every piece of brass flying out the ejection port? If you were to do upscale hog eradication with Barnes, Partitions, B-Tips, etc. . ., it would sound more like:
"KA-CHING!!!":eek:
Yeh, for that kind of money you could buy a Harbor Freight lathe and use it for other stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve urquell
jmo,
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Why is this a Cast Bullets topic?
Somone gets it. Wanna know how long it takes to nose ring a single bullet with a lathe vs this too. Because when you have a guy like this who shoot more rounds and kill more epiga in 5 min then most do in a year ...wellllQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigslug
The unit was designed for match bullets. I wonder if the instructions include a warning sticking a jacket in the bore with core exposed base? As a kid I shot a lot of 30/06 Ball with the points cut off. Never had a separation but a classmate did.
I don’t know but I can put a small ring on my cast bullets with a seater die.
Always ended in the reject bin, but now I could’ve ruled the world if I actually tested them.
Ha
Have to figure out how I butchered them again now.
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Same here......According to Tubbs all of those bullets we trashed were more accurate with a better BC than the bullets we kept! :-(
https://www.davidtubb.com/index.php?...download_id=51Quote:
When properly set the NOSERING® tool uniforms the bullets ballistic drag coefficients during
both supersonic and subsonic flight.
The NOSERING® tool when used with a closed nose bullet (pointed tip) results in not only a more
uniform shot to shot drag characteristics but can also yield higher BC numbers depending on the profile
of the specific bullet. Other bullets shapes with a Meplat present will show a miniscule decrease in
ballistic drag based on their design, but all will exhibit enhanced ballistic drag uniformity.
For a target shooter this means the shooter’s group(s) will become flatter since a specific lot # of
bullets, which can be characterized as brothers and sisters from the same (box/lot) family, will with a
NOSERING® become more like identical twins.
NOSERING® application can result in like kind bullets’ BC variations being reduced by 50% or
more. This means that if a user’s 1000-yard 10 shot group loaded with out of the box bullets prior to
cutting a NOSERING® was an 8” vertical group, after cutting a NOSERING® on the same box of bullets
would yield a group approaching ½ the height. This accuracy improvement translates directly to shorter
ranges. You can expect smaller 100-yard groups as shown by the Doppler as the bullets already exhibit
better uniformity at 50 yards