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G'day,
Considering buying a new hawken at the moment but hesitant on the crescent butt plate. I know to comfortably shoot one it requires a different style of shouldering but it's just not how I shoot.
My question is, is there a commerical recoil pad for hawken style crescent butt's that will take the edge off the kick?
I too do not like the crescent butt plate. It was normally shot off the shoulder joint, a place that I find very uncomfortable. I bought a recoil pad for my shoulder that lets me shoot with the rifle in my normal position. Otherwise I would just cut the crescent top and bottom off and add a spacer to get the length right. james
P.A.S.T. used to offer recoil pads that you strap around your chest and adjustable to fit your shoulder. I have one that's umpteen years old, but it works well for heavy recoiling rifles, including those with a crescent butt plate.
I put a Shock Eater recoil pad on a crescent butt rifle and it works great!
How about something like this with a shaped pad inside the rear of the cover to "take out" the crescent ?
https://i.postimg.cc/zv4Twqz0/92-buttstock-pad-Copy.jpg
I load my Hawken with about 60 gr pyrodex and find that it does not hurt me to shoot it.
The Past strap on recoil pad is what I have been using on crescent butt plates since the early 80's Maven. It works great. I normally shoot from 90 to 100 grains of FFFG in my 50 caliber Hawkin that I made myself way back in the late 70's. I made it from a blueprint that I bought from the Colorado State Museum. It is an exact copy of The Modena rifle. james
Where did this come from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigboat
These stouter hunting loads are what I'd be looking to shoot. I'm just not sure of the practicality for my style of hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNsailorman
It's just something I picked up online. I have a Rossi 92 rifle with a crescent buttplate that I'm going to make one for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushfire
Have not had an issue with crescent butt plates on my ML's, but all had fairly large plates. A small butt stock and plate means it is easy to end up with the point of the comb up against muscle or bone. Grinding back the point on the top of the plate if needed will help. Rifles were 50's and a 54 with heavy hunting loads.
The "crescent" plate rifle was designed to be shot off hand, not from a bench! I have not found black powder muzzle loaders, up to .50 cal, to be really bad until you start approaching 100gr loads. Now the .54 cal is another story, where the extra "drop" in the stock combined with the curved butt plate just hurts me from any shooting position. Pigboat has a great solution which doesn't detract from the beauty of the firearm, while substantially reducing the shape edges of the bare metal plate. I have a similar covering on a 1873 rifle in a pistol cartridge and while it is not a hard recoiling round (weight and all), it works. (Be advised, any attachment of a pad or cover will change the length of pull and "fit" of the firearm of which it is attached.) My .02
I appreciate the way they're meant to be shot but it's just not my style of shooting. I do a lot of the western style elk hunting I guess you'd say so plenty of my shots are taken from prone. Between that and load development I'm not too keen on them.
A quick solution that might work for ya:
Sew a common kitchen hot pad inside your shooting jacket.
A upholstery or shoe repair shop will have a big enough sewing machine to do it, or sew it by hand.
It'll about get you to what the service rifle type event the shooters have.
Bushfire,Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushfire
A few years ago at a yard sale I got 3 rubber slip-on recoil pads for a buck. They instantly tamed the .54 Hawken recoil of my 100 grain Maxi load and the 90 grain .50 caliber Maxi loads.
I hope this helps.
Adam