New Trial with Wano Sporting Powder FFFg in 45-70

Hi Gents,

do a first trial with Wano Sporting Powder FFFg Granulation.

Have got tried some Brands like Goex,Swiss,KIK and Wano Nr 1 over the years before.
Due to my 100 m / 110 Yards Range limitation here in Germany i come back to the conclusion that a lower charge could be successfull for this distance maybe out till 300 m/ 330 Yards

My approved Load with FFg Granulation is around 65 - 70 grs

For the Sporting Powder i take 65 grs first and my 457125 Gov. but results are not successful
reduce to 63 grs. with a good result

but will go down to 61 - 62 grs. next time.

seems for me that there is a lack of accuracy in the 64 - 67 grs level. above 68 grs accuracy is good as usal

No fouling problems with the lighter load, 10 shoot string without wiping only blowtubing with 3 breaths.

Cleaning after 10 Shoots with 2 wet and 2 dry patches .

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Rifle is a Pedersoli Rolling Block Sporting No 1 with Tangsight and a Frontglobe

shooting was done restet on Cross Sticks


Klaus

good shooting klaus , but the load seems to shoot too far left,

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Originally Posted by powderburnerr

good shooting klaus , but the load seems to shoot too far left,

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Naw ... the chicken is standing too far to the right.

Naw Klaus hasn't quite figured in the lead for Earth's rotational West to East spin yet and gave it too much lead :)
Klaus that #1 Wano looks like it will work.

Are you going to make the Quigley in Poland coming up? If you do make that match please post the results.

Kurt

Klaus - I would have never thought that "Reverse German Notation" down to 63grs of FFFg from 70grs would produce a nice 10 shot group. Good shooting!

Hi Gents,

thx for your replys

@ Kurt, unfortunately i can`t participate at the Quickly in Poland this Year but Roland and the Denmark Friends will go there so far i know.
Maybe the Little Bucket Event in Wiesbaden will come up this year but i was not really sure

This Saturday i will just try another Load with the FFFG Stuff 62 grs and the 457125 Bullet
Post my results

I think that the Chicken above was moving shortly before the bullet impact [smilie=f:

No i was looking for a group and do not made a sight correction

Klaus :smile:

I understand the critters not standing still also [smilie=l:
Maybe someday I might come over and shoot that Q also.

Kurt

another Trial with Wano Sporting Powder

in this Case Fg Granulation with 71 grs. compressed to cover my 457125 Bullets
Blow tube

Buckhorn Rear and Penny Frontsight

Distance 100m

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Klaus

Nice group.

some times ago since my last report was send, i do another trial with Wano Sporting Powder FFFg Granulation and the Lyman Postel and Govt. Bullet.

Have a day of yesterday and take some nice time at the range
Prepare all Rounds with 63 grs Wano Sporting Powder FFFg , compressed to .216 .
corked with Milkcarton and Coffeefilter paper.
Pistol Primers
All Rounds are set in the Cartr. covering the greasegroves.
Run all Rounds through the Lyman Necksizer to have a slight fit on the neck only to avoid to loss around upside down or even i have to remove an unfired round .

Distance 100 m
Rifle: Pedersoli Remington Rolling Block 45-70.
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Cross Sticks
Blow Tube


After each 10 Rounds i wiped with blue Glasscleaner 2 dampned an 1 dry patch

First Pics are two targets with a "Bucket" i was training for an upcomming Event in July

the litte Bucket was not easy to aim but finaly i got him after sight correction with the Lyman 457125

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next

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The Lyman 457132
the first 3 Shoots hit the bucket directly but if you are to larking the results are shown in the two deep flyers.

After this first shoot i have a break and changed to the electronical Target
For this result there i have no Papertarget but i have taken pics with my Mobil
sorry for the bad appearence

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here are 10 shoots with the Postell Bullet score 97 Points
The 457125 scores 88 Points .
It was much more easily to aim on the bigger Round than on the little Bucket
Have to say that the Postell Bullet will be my next favorite
By the way i also try the Lee 459-500- 3R with the same load but it was not worth to show the results

greetings from Germany
Klaus

Nice shooting. And wery good fotos.

really fine shooting, klaus!

i'd say at this point your only limitation is that pedersoli roller ...
everyone knows those low end italian guns don't shoot well. :kidding: :drinks: :mrgreen:

Well done Klaus.:wink:
What alloy are you casting? Who's bullet lube do you use?
LG

Hi RFD ,yes you are right ... rubbish **** :-P

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Originally Posted by Lumpy grits

Well done Klaus.:wink:
What alloy are you casting? Who's bullet lube do you use?
LG

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i cast roof lead with 5 % Tin
Emmerts Lube

Beeswax
Lanolin
Coconut Fat
Olive Oil

Kl:?aus

Do you weigh your bullets? I suggest you weigh your bullets and separate them into "Lots" of Plus/Minus 1/2 Grain.

Of course, the "Light" bullets go into the Reject Bin to be recycled through your lead pot as they have hidden air bubbles somewhere in them.

Keep trying different powder charges because sooner or later, you will find one specific charge that gives wonderful accuracy. However, when you change to a different "Lot" of black powder, you will have to develop another best load.

Same when you change primers.

Keep up the good work!!!