Surplus powders in the 444marlin ?
HI,
Has anyone tried any of the surplus powders ( especially WC 860) in the 444 Marlin lever action?
Thinking with a 277gr, GC boolit?:Fire::Fire:
7/2/12
At this time I am going to expand my discussion in this thread to include all bullet weights & any powder.
Thanks for your comments so far
HI,
I want to thank all those who have made comments so far. Not only here but in personal messages, & in parallel threads.
Before I go any farther, I would like to request that who feel inclined to make comments of caution to me, or comments to other posters ( ESPECIALLY TO SENIOR MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD) on their posts & helpful input, to try to be polite. You might want to not only look at not only the number of posts but at the join date, some of us were at 2 other boards & posting there before this one was created. I myself stayed with the other previous boards for almost a year each before joining this one and read all the older posts & printed out much info as I worried that the old boards would disappear. So as a result I did not join & start posting here for over a year after this board was started.
I have noticed that many of our wiser & more knowledgeable members are posting less & less.
THIS IS A GREAT LOSS!
Many of them have made it known to me that they find some of the newbie/greenhorns comments insulting.
I AM NOT SAYING THE NEWER MEMBERS DON'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE & GOOD INFORMATION TO IMPART!
They enrich the board.
So please remember that the older members have been doing this for 40-50 yrs.
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Lite bullets in the 444 marlin
HI,
There is a definite trend in posts in several boards, including here favoring heavy bullets.
However there are a lot of lighter bullets that fill a useful function, are flatter at short range ( with full powder loads), are cheaper & more pleasant to shoot. They are easily adequate for small game & practice.
They can of course be used in 44 mag pistols (my usage) and rifles.
Here is a list of the ones that have been around since at least 1970. some existed in both cast & jacked versions.
120 gr. r. ball,129gr.,158gr.,170 gr.,180 gr., 185gr.,200gr.205 gr.,210gr.,215gr.,220gr.
I have data for the 170gr., 180 & 185 gr., 200 &205 gr., 215gr. if any of you want some of this data ask. Some of this data is for squib loads.
The only one I have used is the 180gr. The cast version has taken game up to smaller deer size.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND ANY OF THE JACKED VERSIONS FOR DEER AT FULL VELOCITY IN THE 444 MARLIN.
But the 180gr. & up wt. bullets have all taken deer in the past for many, at 44mag. pistol velocity.
In fact the 120gr. round ball has taken deer out of muzzle loaders, while the 158gr. has taken over 100 deer for Jerry Lister out of the 357 mag. pistol (smaller dia.)
These weight bullets would not be my personal choice for deer,hogs,or any other big game species.
If you have knowledge of other lite weight bullets, I have not listed please post something about them.
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Opps, this got left out of post14
HI,
Thanks for your input , MARLIN JUNKIE.
I forgot to mention COMPRESSED LOADS, in the background post # 14.
COMPRESSED LOADS are also a problem for some reloaders. Once again we have a useful tech. that IF DONE CORRECTLY , HAS SOME ADVANTAGES.
I admit I have done this too, OH WELL I'M INCORRIGIBLE.
Yes, it can be harder to do, & with some powders might not be a good tech., you might have to buy ( or make) a drop tube.
It allows you to get higher vel. with some powders, if you just fill the case with some powders there is NO CHANCE of an overload, & bullets will almost never telescope into case under recoil.
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