In deep

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03-01-2009, 12:17 PM
leadeye

In deep

I picked up an Ohaus 45500R .458 500RN mold a while back, it makes nice bullets for the .458 Win and now I am looking at it for the 45-70 Marlin. Only problem is how much bullet I have to sink into the case to get it to function in the Marlin. the bullet is 1.381 OAL and I only can have about .430 showing out of the top for good function. Never been this deep where the bullet is taking nearly half the case capacity. I find lots of data in my manuals but lever 45-70s stay with 405 grain and down. Anybody running big deep seated slugs like this through a Marlin 1895?

thanks:-D
03-01-2009, 12:26 PM
Cowboy5780

Leadeye im using a 500 gr flatnose bullet in a 1895 45-70 guide gun with 38 grs of 3031 without any problems has a pretty good kick but is dead accurate at 100 yds
03-01-2009, 01:22 PM
Doc Highwall

Cowboy5780, who's mould are you using?
03-01-2009, 02:01 PM
Cowboy5780

Doc im using lee number 90376 C457-500-F not the round nose like leadeye is using
03-01-2009, 02:42 PM
Doc Highwall

Thank You Cowboy 5780.
03-02-2009, 10:32 PM
leadeye

Still spooks me seeing those things seated that deep.
03-03-2009, 05:05 AM
Slow Elk 45/70

Leadeye, Ya Ain't afeared of a little KaBoom Are Ya???:kidding:
03-03-2009, 07:35 AM
Lloyd Smale

I use both the 500 rcbs and the 540 wfngc ballistic cast in 4570s they work fine.
03-03-2009, 10:01 AM
leadeye

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slow Elk 45/70

Leadeye, Ya Ain't afeared of a little KaBoom Are Ya???:kidding:

The big Kabooms at the muzzle end are what it is about, it's the ones closer to my face that worry me.:-D
03-03-2009, 10:15 AM
Boerrancher

Quote:

Originally Posted by leadeye

The big Kabooms at the muzzle end are what it is about, it's the ones closer to my face that worry me.:-D

Yeah that happened to me this past deer season with my Mod 66 in 44-40. I got re-educated as to how well the 66 fires with an open bolt. I am just glad I was wearing my glasses that day or I would have had more than just a few cuts and powder burns on my face. The blasts are definitely suppose to be at the muzzle and not the breach.

Best wishes from the Boer Ranch,

Joe
03-03-2009, 07:29 PM
Doc Highwall

Lloyd Smale, what kind of load are you using with the RCBS 45-500. I have a Marlin 1895 that I want to load for. What is your alloy, powder etc.
03-04-2009, 10:13 AM
Slow Elk 45/70

Ya , Leadeye, I hear you loud and clear on the KaBoom in the face, been there done that and it ain't no fun. I had what the NRA called a case head failure, the case head split down through the primer pocket and blew up the action on a 98 Mauser in 300 winnie. I was lucky, had on my shooting glasses, saved my eyes, but still got lots of shratnel. Makes you flinch a little to.

I don't use anything larger than 425 gr. in my 45/70's so I can not really say anything about 500 and above, can't see much reason for them in a lever gun, I tried one that I was shooting in a Sharps one time , 485 gr. I had to modify a mold for it and blunt the nose so I still had powder capacity that I wanted. So I use a liter boolit.