8x57 reduced loads with Lee 170 & Green Dot or 700x?
Hello everyone. I am looking to make reduced loads for my M-48A, using the Lee 170g RN with gas checks. I've been reading through the posts relating to reduced loads and find a lot of great info for loads using 3031, 2400, Red Dot, etc., but I don't have any of those powders on hand. What I do have is Green Dot, 700x, IMR 4350 and 4064. Am looking to load up inexpensive practice loads for 100- and 200-yards (longest distance available at our range). Just looking for starting loads with the powders I have and any experiences that you want to share. Thanks, 8mmFan.
P.S. Was surprised at how far out I have to seat this bullet to be just off the lands in this rifle. Will have to seat it far off the lands just to have at least a bullet-width's amount of the bullet back in the case neck.
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All hail hamish!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is what makes the internet, and Cast Boolits especially, SO awesome!
As of this morning, I had no load data for what I was trying to do, as mentioned above. Thanks to Hamish, who took the time to post the above info, I was able to do the following reloading work, all in 30 minutes after church.
A) Put my six-year-old reloading partner/son to work neck-sizing some old fired R-P cases.
B) Get out an oooooold can of opened Green Dot.
C) Go to the Lee Dippers
D) Fire up the RCBS scale
E) Prime said cases
F) Measure in 11-, 12-, 13-, 14-, and 15-grain loads of Green dot into 4-cartridge sets. (why four loads per set? No reason, just that's all the R-P cases I had immediately available.
G) Put said reloading partner to work seating the boolits, depth of which was determined the other day with a Stony Point OAL gauge. Which he observed.
H) Head for range with above reloads, and his Savage Rascal .22
While he shot his .22, I tested the reloads at 100 yards. Hopefully I can post the picture below. I was THRILLED. To sum it up, the 13g and 14g GD loads are upper right, and lower right respectively. I'd say about 1.5 MOA at 100 yards. The 11g and 12g were not good, and neither was the 15g load, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS WITH S&B CASES.
In short: THANK YOU, HAMISH. Thanks for helping me get a super plinking load (at least the beginnings of one) started, and thanks for responding with great info so fast. I really hope that other hobbies everywhere have the same type of awesome enthusiasts that we enjoy in the world of CAST BOOLITS!! 8mmFan
We're you using a gas check?
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Originally Posted by
curator
I have tried this boolit with 700x, Green Dot, Red Dot, Win231,and Unique in my M48A. I never got the accuracy I desired and leading was an issue even sized to .3255 and BHN20. Moving to 16 grains of Alliant 2400 was the trick. At least my rifle wanted the slower burning powder. Seating the boolit out to touch the lands is a big help in getting uniform velocities with reduced loads
Curator, I am just curious: did you have a gas check on your bullet when you had the leading problems? I am using one, partially because I thought that a gas check scrapes the lead out of the barrel. 8mmFan