Looking for load data 9mm 135gn

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11-04-2023, 06:12 PM
Cris T

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Looking for load data 9mm 135gn

Hi folks,
I am looking for load data for a 9mm Round nose flat or hollow base lead powder coated bullet.
I swage them to the final specs and haven't made the dies yet. I plan on making the ogive start at a smaller diameter (like the Lee 90464 122gn but without the lube grooves and 135gn). I am planning on using HS6. I am also going to have to experiment with where to start the ogive to correspond to the seating depth. I also need to know the seating depth. Any suggestions are appreciated.
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11-04-2023, 06:41 PM
Dom

https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/reloading-data-center
11-04-2023, 06:58 PM
P Flados

The only 135 in the Hodgdon tool is the "135 GR. ACME RN CTD". Without knowing the bullet length, the Hodgdon seating depth can not be determined. Does anybody have this info?
11-04-2023, 09:30 PM
Hick

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Originally Posted by Cris T

Hi folks,
I am looking for load data for a 9mm Round nose flat or hollow base lead powder coated bullet.
I swage them to the final specs and haven't made the dies yet. I plan on making the ogive start at a smaller diameter (like the Lee 90464 122gn but without the lube grooves and 135gn). I am planning on using HS6. I am also going to have to experiment with where to start the ogive to correspond to the seating depth. I also need to know the seating depth. Any suggestions are appreciated.
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I use a Lee bullet that looks exactly like the picture you posted. Mine drop at about 133 grains. I use 3.8 grains of Titegroup and they run about 1050 fps. For mine, I use COL = 1.085
11-05-2023, 01:51 AM
Cris T

Do you use .356" diameter or bigger?
My dies make them .3567"
11-05-2023, 03:02 AM
Hick

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Originally Posted by Cris T

Do you use .356" diameter or bigger?
My dies make them .3567"

I size mine 0.356 and then powder coat them, which usually makes them about 357/358
11-05-2023, 11:26 AM
P Flados

Quickoad has 0.590" for the Lee 356-124-2R length. I selected that bullet, but changed the weight to 135 gr. I selected COL based on the post by Hick.

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Cartridge : 9 mm Luger (SAAMI) Bullet : .356, 124, LEE 356-124-2R (135 gr as cast) Seating depth : .259 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.085 inch = 27.56 mm Barrel Length : 4.5 inch = 114.3 mm Powder : Hodgdon HS-6 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 1.852% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -07.4 75 5.00 967 280 23039 3427 86.1 0.576 -05.6 77 5.10 985 291 24226 3517 87.0 0.563 -03.7 78 5.20 1003 302 25464 3606 87.8 0.550 -01.9 80 5.30 1021 313 26757 3694 88.7 0.538 +00.0 81 5.40 1039 324 28106 3781 89.5 0.526 +01.9 83 5.50 1057 335 29515 3866 90.2 0.515 +03.7 84 5.60 1075 347 30985 3951 91.0 0.503 ! Near Maximum ! +05.6 86 5.70 1093 358 32521 4033 91.7 0.493 ! Near Maximum ! +07.4 87 5.80 1111 370 34125 4114 92.4 0.482 ! Near Maximum ! +09.3 89 5.90 1129 382 35802 4194 93.0 0.472 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
11-05-2023, 11:41 AM
P Flados

And TG. The 3.8 gr charge is likely in the +P range.

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Cartridge : 9 mm Luger (SAAMI) Bullet : .356, 124, LEE 356-124-2R (135 gr as cast) Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.085 inch = 27.56 mm Barrel Length : 4.5 inch = 114.3 mm Powder : Hodgdon TiteGroup Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.5% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -25.0 55 3.00 876 230 21488 2234 100.0 0.616 -22.5 57 3.10 895 240 22968 2292 100.0 0.598 -20.0 58 3.20 914 250 24509 2349 100.0 0.581 -17.5 60 3.30 932 261 26114 2405 100.0 0.565 -15.0 62 3.40 951 271 27784 2462 100.0 0.551 -12.5 64 3.50 969 281 29522 2518 100.0 0.537 -10.0 66 3.60 986 292 31329 2574 100.0 0.523 ! Near Maximum ! -07.5 67 3.70 1004 302 33207 2629 100.0 0.511 ! Near Maximum ! -05.0 69 3.80 1021 312 35159 2684 100.0 0.499 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
11-07-2023, 11:08 AM
Kosh75287

You may also find that your best results may come from using a propellant that has a burning rate somewhere between TG and HS-6. The best results I'VE obtained in 9mmP with bullets weighing 124 gr. and over, were when I used Alliant Unique, BE-86, or Herco. I'm convinced that it is more about the burning rate than the brand, so if you have access to a Hodgdon product with similar burn characteristics, you may get more of what you are after, with a bit better economy (vs. HS-6). Hodgdon Universal or WIN244, may be your friends.
11-09-2023, 12:33 AM
reddog81

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Originally Posted by P Flados

The only 135 in the Hodgdon tool is the "135 GR. ACME RN CTD". Without knowing the bullet length, the Hodgdon seating depth can not be determined. Does anybody have this info?

Assuming the nose profile is similar, the amount of bullet in the case will be similar. Hollow base bullets will be longer but the capacity inside the case doesn’t change.