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    Today, 04:00 PM
    Randy, I do believe you are officially hooked! Now I'm looking for a Buchanan version of the lee load-all.... BB, right about factory loads. The 'rifled' slugs off the shelf turn into 50 cent pieces against a hard target. On the other hand,...
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    Today, 01:57 PM
    GBertolet,in my experience the answer to your question is no. Generally, more components mean more chances for misalignment and inconsistent compression. Pretty to compare specific loads though, just load 5 of one 5 of the other with appropriate...
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    Today, 09:09 AM
    ^^^^ This is why accuracy is sometimes elusive. Knowing you're gonna be punished combined with typical shotgun triggers is hardly condusive to repeatability. A lot of the data suggested for the Lee and Lyman slugs will kick your teeth out. Not...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    Today, 02:13 AM
    Randy the reason I like the Brenneke Classic is because of the wad stack ~ hard felt like material with plastic washers on either side. Nothing there to distort. I've seen the Gualandi wads crush somewhat off center which I think is due to the long...
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    Today, 01:55 AM
    What Hickory said! Who knows what powder the factory uses and if and when they change powders. Seems like a lot of work to open hulls to dump powder unless you plan to just cut them off to get the powder. I'd say not worth it even if you knew...
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    Yesterday, 08:45 PM
    Gray Fox: I have been leaning toward the Stoeger 12 ga. Supreme Coachgun if I go new. If I can find a decent used Stoeger coachgun or full length (I can cut barrels down to 20") I'd likely buy it and try it. They aren't too pricey. I like side...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:15 PM
    I have some of those Russian slugs on hand now. KrakenFan69 sent me 50 which was very nice of him. I tested some last spring but have not been to the range for some time due to very dry (and on fire) forest surrounding us. So far accuracy has not...
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  • Hogtamer's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:17 PM
    Star crimp is fine and you will do better overfilling the cavity with hot glue, let it set and trim flush with a sharp hot blade. A straight wall wad like trap commander is a good snug snap fit in the bottom of the wad and height is perfect. If...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:21 PM
    longbow replied to a thread Load Data in Casting for Shotguns
    I tried using card wads for slug loads a couple of years ago. Not real successful! I had a bunch of shotcups I'd cut gas seal off and bags of nitro card wads so thought I'd try some wad slugs using the shotcups on a card wad column. I put two 12...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:12 PM
    I have to get out and do some more shooting myself. We've had one of the worst fire seasons ever this year and not only was the local range closed due to fire but I was reluctant to go into the bush as was so dry. Not sure why the forest wasn't...
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    09-21-2018, 09:33 PM
    While I am impressed with what Ed is doing and it still makes me laugh when I read the size and velocity of his projectiles, or maybe giggle is a more correct yet less manly term. However, I am more interested in using shotgun hulls or brass shotgun...
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  • Hogtamer's Avatar
    09-21-2018, 07:35 PM
    i got a legit 3" group with Lyman 525s with MY loads from MY gun at 100 yds from bench the last time I shot targets. As most everyone know there is a good deal of variance in shotgun barrels and fit is everything - it takes a good deal of fiddling...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    09-20-2018, 09:16 PM
    What megasupermagnum said "Brenneke invented a better slug in 1898"
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    09-20-2018, 09:14 PM
    faustus: Thanks for posting that link. I think I have seen that article before but re-read and looked closely at the group sizes. Interestingly the smallest group listed is from a Remington 870 and the largest from a USH. makes one wonder... ...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    09-20-2018, 06:53 PM
    Not to sound critical but I would have expected tighter groups too with a Hastings barrel and sabot slugs. That is something we seem to be missing though are posted longer range targets. I hear stories and read posts of stellar long range...
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    09-19-2018, 09:46 PM
    Lapping it out by 0.005" should be doable but I'm with MT Gianni, I'd try thicker patch material. If you want to try lapping, I'd do 1/2 at a time in a drill press turning slowly and with little force then put the mould haves together and finish...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    09-19-2018, 09:39 PM
    I've been pondering some of the lower cost guns for knock around use but they are lower cost for a reason. For a bear gun I want something that will go bang at least twice when I need it to. No jamming, no feeding problems, not sensitive to dirt,...
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  • Hogtamer's Avatar
    09-19-2018, 07:15 PM
    Hogtamer replied to a thread Load Data in Casting for Shotguns
    Oh yeah, if you're using used hulls you'll need to open them fully with a tapered rod of some sort, twisting back and forth to soften. I use an old salt water tapered stopper that works. Those components have to go in straight.
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    09-19-2018, 06:26 PM
    Hogtamer replied to a thread Load Data in Casting for Shotguns
    Fiochi actually manufactures the old school cardboard stack loads. Interpolating from this: https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/12/13/latest-loads-fiber-wad-loads/ I wouldn't worry about the specific BPI products but you need a 1 1/8...
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    09-19-2018, 04:03 PM
    Hogtamer replied to a thread Load Data in Casting for Shotguns
    GP, I understand the question, it's just that plastic wads with shotcups are so much more effective for shot loads in consistency, ease of loading and pattern. They are also cheap. That includes various buckshot loads and wad-type slugs. But you...
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    09-19-2018, 03:33 PM
    Hogtamer replied to a thread Welcome aboard Wideners! in Our Town
    Nice, thanks Chief.
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  • longbow's Avatar
    09-17-2018, 08:03 PM
    I haven't seen Norinco's available for a while now but haven't look hard. Heard pros and cons on Norinco. Kind of appealing that they copy 870's so close parts interchange... as long as the quality is reasonable and guns dependable. For a bear gun...
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    09-16-2018, 07:49 PM
    ^^^^ Skeetx, you da man!
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    09-16-2018, 05:49 PM
    If you can put your stuff in 6 qt containers friend, you haven't started yet! My crew (2 sons and grandson & me) shot about 8 boxes of 12 ga yesterday. They get a flat of shells each for birthday and Christmas. That generally gets burned up at...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    09-16-2018, 11:44 AM
    I never quite figured the appeal of buck and ball loads. If you are close then plain 'ol buckshot is good. If you are farther then a double ball load or Tri-Ball load (Dixie Slugs style) makes sense. I'd rather have two 0.600" to 0.690" balls in...
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  • longbow's Avatar
    09-16-2018, 11:29 AM
    Oh I know about light single shots. my main slug gun is an old Cooey single shot and it is light! I got tired of being hammered with recoil so hard when I shoot off the bench so made a raised cross stick type rest that sits on top of the shooting...
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    09-16-2018, 02:09 AM
    I'm with you there Gp! I don't currently have a handy packable bear gun though so there is one of two goals and that is to get a handy packable bear gun. The second is long range slug accuracy. I've struggled with smoothore long enough so I think...
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    09-15-2018, 08:12 PM
    Well, I gotta say... convincing arguments. I've been an 870 fan for a long time but am now leaning towards the Mossberg. Also thinking I should really go the two gun route using a knock about smoothbore for the bear protection and get a solid...
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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