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  • Josh Smith's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:23 PM
    Hello, Not much to add except these rifles are awesome, and I found three round clips: I hope to own a Berthier or Lebel one day. Regards, Josh
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:24 AM
    Ok I missed that they are powder coated, try heat treating them. It seems strange that only one out of every five does it though, but with mine as a lube problem it was the 5th shot always not random.
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 05:38 PM
    I am going to say it's your lube at that speed. I had something very similar going on with my home brewed lube and the 7.62x54r, multiple groups on same target, 5th shot out every single time. I tried adding ATF helped, then paraffin and fliers went...
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 02:39 PM
    No he's shooting Sierra 175 .323 bullets. They never removed the 6.5 markings
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 02:37 PM
    Interesting colored wood, I can see a bit of striping in the butt. Looks as if stock has been refinished though? The one pictured on the Wiki link is just fantastic, tiger striped stem to stern!
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  • beanflip's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 12:54 PM
    Missing this RCBS scale label I have a replacement for it. Price for replacements or as follows: 1 for $4.50 TYD 3 for $10.50 TYD I have 10 of these available.
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 11:06 AM
    I wish I owned the one pictured on Wiki, nice stock! Loiner1965 good shooting at 100M, we do want to see more pictures of the rifle in action.:-)
    23 replies | 347 view(s)
  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 06:53 AM
    yup I don't meter the cost of my modem being on all night or how much it cost me per hour to watch tv or build a wood fire to cook over to save electricity or take cold showers to save a few pennys. Ive probably got 3ok worth of loading and casting...
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 06:43 AM
    Your talking to the wrong guy. No smart phone and Ive never even taken a picture with my flip phone!!
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 06:42 AM
    One of the bullets I casted was a 110 grain lachmiller round nose designed for the 30 carbine. Cant help you yet though. Right now im just casting piles of bullets to try. Wont get out to shoot them till the snow is gone in the spring.
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 06:39 AM
    Every gun is different and to say which bullet would shoot best would be just a poor guess. Ill say this though. the rcbs 121 round nose has been probably the most accurate across the board bullet in all of my 9s. Its only disadvantage is your stuck...
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 06:32 AM
    I mounted a lee hand press upside down on my bench with a piece of hose that fits tightly over the lee die and feeds the bullets into a coffee can under the bench. Works pretty good but I could see where a bit better quality press would be even...
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  • M-Tecs's Avatar
    01-15-2019, 03:15 AM
    What type of tackle do you use to catch deer??????????? Is a mandatory deer check being established in the area? Not at this time. The DNR’s primary focus for response is...
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  • Rug480's Avatar
    01-14-2019, 04:09 PM
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    01-14-2019, 11:51 AM
    swheeler replied to a thread 458 Lott 730 grain in Cast Boolits
    That would be a thumper I'm betting!
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-14-2019, 07:26 AM
    definitely fast but id bet if you had to take bullets down more then .003 you'd have an awful sore arm sizing on the up stroke.
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-14-2019, 07:07 AM
    found a hp mold in the stash I might try. Its an noe 4 cav 115 grain lfngc hp mold that is marked .314 for the 32 mag. Going to cast some today out of 5050 ww/pure size the to 309 and pc them.
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-14-2019, 07:00 AM
    going to cast another one today. I have a noe 115 lfngc hp mold that is for the 32mag ect. Im going to cast them a bit softer out of 5050 ww/pure and pc them and size them down to 309. Don't know if they will run or not in an ar but if they do id...
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 01:46 PM
    You could try some 5-7 shot groups, maybe even more rounds would give a better picture. I see a typo in your data though you forgot the C in BL-C (2) or lot# 2 however your canister is marked. Have fun and enjoy, even if you are using those danged...
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 01:36 PM
    swheeler replied to a thread Hungarian M95 in Military Rifles
    I fired 5 of the Nazi head stamped ammo over the chrony @ 70* F Sept 2009, averaged 2285 fps,I believe those are supposed to be 206 grain bullet, 2.5 inch group at 50 yds.
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  • fatnhappy's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 11:57 AM
    I have 3 different Lyman 311291 moulds to include a factory HP and every one of them is slightly different. My single cavity throws a acww .302 nose .310 body which shoots beautifully in my 06s but won’t chamber in my 1950s marlin .30-30. In...
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  • fatnhappy's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 11:36 AM
    My first brass mould was the 432640 from mihec. There was a learning curve which consisted of “cast faster.” Once I realized it liked to run hot I was off to the races. My mihec moulds are without a doubt if the highest quality I own. The only...
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  • fatnhappy's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 11:18 AM
    Remington will never hot blue in Ilion again. The power plant that delivered steam to them refused to renew their contract about 5 years ago. There were a few articles about it at the time which specifically referenced the steam was used for hot...
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 08:25 AM
    light 44 bullet? the 240rcbs swcgc has always been my go too. If a 44 wont shoot that bullet it wont shoot period. Only downside is the cost of checks.
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 08:23 AM
    5050 Crisco and beeswax allways worked as good as anything for me.
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  • Lloyd Smale's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 07:26 AM
    I sized all of those down to 309 in my star. With that real hard alloy it was a chore. But all sized down a bit easier then the lee 155 2r did out of that alloy. I found an old lee 309 sizer but it was rusted up a bit and I coudnt find the punch for...
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  • M-Tecs's Avatar
    01-13-2019, 03:13 AM
    M-Tecs replied to a thread 45-70 in Our Town ...
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munising Michigan
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Lead lineman for the power company.


Soldier of God, sixgun junky, Retired electrical lineman. My office was a 100 feet in the air, closer to God the better


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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check