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  • swheeler's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:52 PM
    I thought the color around the 231 was blue in the good old days?
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  • MOA's Avatar
    07-19-2018, 02:45 PM
    CCI use to sell 9mm Largo. Send an email to them an see if they still have runs of it occasionally. Or have one of your LSG guys check with their distributors to see if you can special order it. Is it possible to run 38 super hand loads in that gun?
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  • MOA's Avatar
    07-19-2018, 01:57 PM
    Kev18, sorry to hear about the gun shop owner going brain dead on you. I just looked at GB and they only list two winchesters in the configuration you are desiring. One is a 1887 in ten gauge, the other is the model 1901 in ten gauge. The 1887 is...
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 08:39 PM
    Dang you sound like Dennis Marshall! ;-)
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    07-18-2018, 07:36 PM
    The part of the extractor that folds down over the face of the bolt is the CLAW on a claw extractor, the bevel is the bottom edge of that claw that slips into the extractor groove of the cartridge, notice the shape, very very little at a time.
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 07:27 PM
    I've done a couple from BLANKS and they needed extra work to be 100% To tight or not enough rounded off on lower corner, feeding issue, too loose and you are screwed, it can jump the extractor over the rim and you can run it like a push feed, not...
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  • ShooterAZ's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 07:22 PM
    I finally got a chance to try out the Noe 314299 boolits a member sent me, sized .314 and lubed with 2500+. I loaded some up with 19.0 gr of SR4759, and 21 grains of 5744. I got similar results as Ray's post above, very tight groups with both loads....
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 07:14 PM
    Look directly at the face of the extractor, head on if you will, you will see the bevel on the edge of the extractor. That bevel is what slips into the extractor groove on the cartridge. After you get the extractor to fit down in to the groove in...
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 05:48 PM
    This is the best I can do with cell phone. Bolt is in same position as your picture, no cartridge under claw as yours, note the extractor to bolt interface, that is what it should look like. I hope this helps you
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 05:31 PM
    Yes and then the bevel on the claw to cartridge head, the cartridge should slip under the extractor with enough force to hold the cartridge in place-CRF. make sure the collar wraps around the groove in the bolt as a slip fit also, especially if...
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 03:13 PM
    Maybe this will help, maybe not:-) cell phone pictures not too good. SR extractor on bolt and with cartridge under extractor lip. You may have the wrong extractor or one that has never been fit, maybe even an extractor collar that is wrong?
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 02:24 PM
    There's way to much clearance between bolt and bottom of extractor, there is not that much with a cartridge under the lip of one that's correct.
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 02:19 PM
    Yes that looks to high and is causing the bind I would guess, once you fit that correctly then the claw/ bevel will need fit to case head. Where did you get the extractor, one of Midways NEW blanks?
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 12:41 PM
    Sounds like a blank new extractor that has not been fit to case head yet?
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-18-2018, 12:37 PM
    I use a 5 gal bucket with about 4 gal of water in it. I float 7-8 small wet Dollar Store sponges on top of the water, a bullet just tips the sponge and dumps. If you do slash water in a cavity it is gone instantly anyway so no worries.
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  • Larry Gibson's Avatar
    07-17-2018, 04:44 PM
    311041hp
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-17-2018, 02:23 PM
    I've been using it with powder coated gas checked bullets for 3 years now according to the 2015 date on the HBN bottle. I've also added to lube(no value I could determine) and used on a patch to condition the bore, helped with getting HBN back into...
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-17-2018, 01:54 PM
    I tried it in 30-06 with 200 gr Lee bullet, nice mild load and reasonably accurate for conditions that day. 15.0 grs was most accurate of 14-16 tested, 5 round groups of 1.5"-100yd @ 10*F Jan 2004, 15.0=1556 fps from 22" Savage 110. WSF(15.0=1555...
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  • Larry Gibson's Avatar
    07-17-2018, 10:26 AM
    Lyman's data is correct. I've measured the psi. I've shot 5 gr Bullseye under a lot of 190 to 205 gr cast in many different 45 ACP weapons for years with complete satisfaction, it is my standard 45 ACP load. Five gr Bullseye under the 230 gr fmj...
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  • MOA's Avatar
    07-16-2018, 04:39 PM
    Kev18, I will post my work up and components along with my methodology so a complete grasp of my approach to these loading can be discerned.
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  • MOA's Avatar
    07-16-2018, 04:32 PM
    Well I think the op was specifically speaking to the 1887 model, NOT the Winchester model 1901. 1901 IS the model number in this case that Winchester used different steel in than what was used in the 1887 model. Easy to tell which model you have....
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  • MOA's Avatar
    07-16-2018, 01:39 PM
    Kev, I know many do that. For myself I will stick to black on those guns made and ment for black. I wish you continued success in your endeavors with substituting smokeless.
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  • swheeler's Avatar
    07-16-2018, 09:35 AM
    Very nice JB, enjoy it. I made one years ago so the wife and I could get away from the crowds at the range and love it.
    15 replies | 661 view(s)
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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