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  • fatelk's Avatar
    05-15-2019, 04:39 PM
    Well, it’s on it way back to Florida. I told them about the loose barrel (which I fixed), the timing problem, the keyholing, and the lack of cylinder gap. We’ll see what I get back. Every manufacturer has lemons once in a while. I soured on...
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    05-15-2019, 12:32 AM
    That's funny; I use almost the exact same loads in mine. I like those two molds. the 429244GC has the edge for accuracy in my 1894. I also powder coat them but size to .4315" and use the same loads in my S&Ws.
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    05-14-2019, 01:19 AM
    Thanks everyone. That definitely gives me somewhere to start. I kind of figured an ounce of lead is an ounce of lead, so some variation of birdshot loads should be able to work.
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    05-13-2019, 11:21 PM
    I've had a lot better results in mine with gas checked bullets.
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    05-13-2019, 11:15 PM
    fatelk replied to a thread Corrosive primers??? in Our Town
    http://www.odcmp.org/1101/USGI.pdf
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    05-12-2019, 11:11 PM
    I've almost come to the decision to send mine in for repair. I didn't want to spend the money to ship it, seemed like throwing good money after bad, but my boss suggested to use the company shipping discount (as long as I pay for it). I calculated...
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    05-12-2019, 10:55 PM
    Funny you mention that; I just got back from the range. I didn't spend much time there because my wife was with me, and it IS Mother's Day. :) I had the Rough Rider, the Wrangler, and my old Ruger Standard auto. Lately I may not be the best one...
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    05-12-2019, 03:04 AM
    I was wondering if you could indulge my curiosity on this; We might be talking about different things. On every SA revolver you checked, none of the cylinders were fully indexed and locked when the hammer was carefully fully cocked? This is just...
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    05-11-2019, 11:43 PM
    It sounds like we're on the same page, for sure. As many little problems as this Rough Rider has, I still enjoy tinkering with it, and I still think I can get it put together right to make a nice accurate little range toy. I wouldn't want to rely on...
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    05-11-2019, 11:33 PM
    It's interesting, the Wrangler forcing cone seems to be about halfway between the Single Six and the Rough Rider, in size. The Single Six is also made for .22 Mag ammo. I don't know; as long as they work.
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    05-11-2019, 09:44 PM
    Here's the Wrangler compared to the Rough Rider, Wrangler on left.
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    05-11-2019, 02:47 PM
    That's another issue with this Rough Rider. It has no cylinder gap, just lots of end shake. The cylinder rubs on the barrel. The magnum cylinder is exactly the same. It spins pretty free even though it rubs. I put two .004" endshake bearings in it,...
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    05-11-2019, 02:32 PM
    That sounds like a great time. There's nothing like spending time with family. I wish I was closer to my dad. We've never been close; different personalities and interests. He hates my gun stuff. He's stressed a lot and not much fun to be around....
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    05-11-2019, 02:25 PM
    I haven't even looked for wheel weight in well over a decade. Too much steel and zinc, and they all had "a guy". One of my pet peeves was how people here used to give the advice on how to get a good supply of wheel weights: you bring the tire...
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    05-11-2019, 01:51 PM
    I meant full cock, but without pulling the hammer past to where it contacts the frame. Slowly cocking to where the sear engages fully and you can pull the trigger and fire.
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    05-11-2019, 02:40 AM
    I wondered if the occasional tumbling had something to do with the massive, cavernous forcing cone in the barrel of the Rough Rider, but after I bought the Wrangler I noticed that the forcing cone in it was just as big. Do the old Single Sixes have...
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    05-11-2019, 12:01 AM
    Wow, what a hog-leg! I like it. My very first revolver was a Dan Wesson .357 mag with a 15" barrel. I sure wish I had kept that one. Out of curiosity, do all 3 of yours index completely as you cock them, if you don't pull all the way back? As I...
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    05-10-2019, 09:46 PM
    I just bought one last weekend. So far I like it a lot. It locks up solid. For an inexpensive revolver I think it has great potential. I’d better be careful not to speak too soon though. I was very happy with the Rough Rider until the barrel came...
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    05-10-2019, 08:44 PM
    I don't think I was necessarily manipulating it to malfunction. I first noticed the issue when I was carefully shooting from sandbags for accuracy. It was keyholing badly and I realized that the way I was cocking it wasn't locking the cylinder. If I...
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    05-10-2019, 12:06 PM
    You’re missing my point completely. I know about timing and what any quality revolver should be. This Rough Rider is a very cheap gun. It is less than a year old with no sign of any wear on the parts in question. A Taurus phone rep told me...
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    05-10-2019, 12:50 AM
    That's the obvious assumption, but if I understand correctly they're saying that it's a normal part of the design and they're all like that. That's why I asked if any other Rough Rider owners could take a look.
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    05-09-2019, 10:10 PM
    I have a quick question for you all. Take your Rough Rider revolver and carefully cock the hammer back. Pull it back slowly and only far enough to cock it. Is the cylinder fully rotated into position and latched? Mine is not quite fully rotated...
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    05-08-2019, 09:37 PM
    I'm sure this has been asked and answered on this forum before but I couldn't find it. Anyone loading slugs with lighter charges of faster shotgun powder? The loading manuals I have all list heavy charges of slow powder for slug loads, and I'd...
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    05-08-2019, 12:04 PM
    I’ve heard people talk about the inaccuracy of the Rough Rider, but mine has proven to be plenty accurate enough. From a bench I could get fairly consistent 2.5” groups at 25 yards. That’s as good as I can do with anything. I can do a little...
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    05-08-2019, 12:11 AM
    I thought I could never, ever make a mistake like that, until the day I fired a magazine full of .380 acp through a 9mm Makarov. No harm done, but I sure wondered where my accuracy went!
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    05-05-2019, 05:46 PM
    I don't mean to bash Rough Riders or the people who own a good one and like them. If you have a good one that shoots well and hasn't broken, then it's a good value for you. I know there are lots of folks out there that have been shooting them for...
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    05-05-2019, 12:18 PM
    I’m not going to spend $50 shipping to fix a brand new gun that’s just a few months old (and worth barely double that) when I can fix the barrel myself with a little Locktite. If the Ruger had such an obvious defect at the same point, I have no...
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    05-05-2019, 02:34 AM
    I was much happier with my Rough Rider before the barrel came loose all on it's own on a brand new gun a few months old. It shoots fine so long as I'm careful to pull the hammer all the way to the rear, otherwise on occasion it won't lock the...
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    05-04-2019, 07:29 PM
    I just picked one up this morning at a gun show, $189 retail. I really like the feel of it. I was a defender of the cheap little Heritage Rough Rider, but for only $60 more for the Ruger, I think the Wrangler is a far, far better value. I haven't...
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    04-29-2019, 11:07 AM
    They're going to put a massive dent in Rough Rider sales, it sounds like. With a Ruger for $180, I wouldn't even look at a $130 Taurus (Rough Rider). I know not to expect anything very nice for that price range, but it has to be better than the RR....
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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