Lightest .459?

[TonyM]

Looking for opinions on the lightest weight cast gc boolit in .459 that you would consider shooting... lets say out of a Marlin 45/70 1895 GG for instance...

[Thin Man]

TonyM,
I have just started working with the RCBS 300 grain pattern in a Marlin 1895 and all early tests are very encouraging. With just a bit of research and care in loading I have already reached "minute of whitetail" accuracy buy am working to improve that standard. Casting ACWW, various charges of IMR4198, standard rifle primers. After exhausting the 4198 trials I will try other powders, always looking for that special formula that just cannot be improved. Good luck.

[BABore]

I have both a 463-300 GC and a 462-325 GC design. Both work well in the Marlin. I size both at 0.462 for my 45-70 Marlins. Your gun will do very well at 0.460 diameter and even better at 0.462. Check the ID of your fired brass. It will usually handle a 0.462 boolit and that size will fill the throat better. This allows very little room for the boolit to cant as it exits the case.

I'm currently working with a PB version of the 463-300 GC design. I made a 2C HP mold of it to play with. Cast from 50/50 WW-Pb, air cooled for 10 bhn, it does very well with 29.5 grains of SR 4759. 5-shot, 50 yard groups are running just below an inch from my "B0" serial # Marlin. I'm in the second stages of load developement and will be shooting this load in quantity at a bit farther difference. Trying to get a fairly soft, 100-150 yd deer load, that expands well.

[Dutch4122]

+1 what BaBore said. Measure the inside diameter of a fired case from that rifle. I usually go with .001" under that diameter. You will see an improvement in accuracy.[smilie=w:

Also, I highly recommend his molds. The quality is second to none; and turn around time on orders is excellent. No waiting for "Group Buys" to come in based on a minimum # of orders. The cherrie is just sitting there waiting to cut the next order that comes in.

Hope this helps,

[44man]

I like the 300 gr area too. Try 3031 in the rifle, great accuracy and a milder recoil then 4198.
BABore makes some of the nicest molds and the best boolits I ever seen.
I make my own molds and he has been a great help to me. He has sent some test boolits and I have pictures of his molds, I wish I could do such fine work!
I have to complain a little about his 420 gr HP out of my BFR 45-70. Super accurate but I lost an entire shoulder at boolit exit on a nice doe. WOW! :bigsmyl2::bigsmyl2:

[BABore]

I like the 300 gr area too. Try 3031 in the rifle, great accuracy and a milder recoil then 4198.
BABore makes some of the nicest molds and the best boolits I ever seen.
I make my own molds and he has been a great help to me. He has sent some test boolits and I have pictures of his molds, I wish I could do such fine work!
I have to complain a little about his 420 gr HP out of my BFR 45-70. Super accurate but I lost an entire shoulder at boolit exit on a nice doe. WOW! :bigsmyl2::bigsmyl2:

Moral of story: Don't shoot nice doe in shoulder with HP boolit. Three ribs back. Bang - Flop.

[44man]

I did Bruce, but she was quartered away a little! :bigsmyl2:

[seppos]

Collar button..;)
Group buy in progress..

S

[TonyM]

Has anyone shot any of these Under 300gr?

[Bullshop]

I have an old Ideal mold for a .457" 180gn HB that I like for 22ish loads.

[Frozone]

I have an old Ideal mold for a .457" 180gn HB that I like for 22ish loads.

Which one is that, the 401? I've been looking for a 457195.

[Catshooter]

Don't forget the round ball. Paco Kelly has done a lot of work with round balls and they work very well from silent loads to high speed screamers.


Cat

[ricksplace]

I have been working with the RCBS 300 gr fpgc in my .458 Win. Very promising results. Nice mould and easy to cast with. Kicks a heckuva lot less than the 500gr.

[AbitNutz]

I kind of cheated with this. I can take any .45 bullet and make it .458. I have a round nose swaging die that is .458. All I do is run whatever .45 bullet up into it and bump it to .458. Since I'm only going from a minimum of say....451 to .458. There is no problem if the lead is hard or soft. The only issue is the nose of the billet will get reshaped a bit if it doesn't match the nose of the swaging nose punch.

[1Shirt]

:coffeecomCollar button or round ball (about the same weight).
1Shirt!

[JeffinNZ]

Has anyone paper patched an ACP bullet?

[mpmarty]

Has anyone paper patched an ACP bullet?

Yes and they were all over the place. Keyholes and flyers. Frustrating!

[45 2.1]

Has anyone paper patched an ACP bullet?

Best to patch a soft cast boolit at about 0.454" with 9 lb onionskin (~0.002" thick). Smaller sized boolits need thicker paper. Longer bearing surface lengths help here as do 0.462" patched diameters.